Kazue Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 I have Burstbucker Pro's in my les paul and they sound great, but I play alot of metal mostly and was wondering what you guy's take would be on maybe switching out to Seymour Blackouts or EMG's, I have EMG's in my Epi Les Paul Prophecy and they sound pretty good, but I'm scared of messing with my "baby", my Gibson that is :) ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamman Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 I would not do that to any of my Gibsons. but that's me. An Epi , ok , but with the amount of work needed. new wire, pots,the pups & the work involved. If you really want it than go for it. it's your axe. i think most of the people here are not fans of EMG's and such. so ..... go with what you like. I say no go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiamondJig Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 Go for it, I would swap them myself to hear what it sounds like. To me changing pickups is not a big deal only takes a little time. I would do it the next time I change strings. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepblue Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 I have Burstbucker Pro's in my les paul and they sound great' date=' but I play alot of metal mostly and was wondering what you guy's take would be on maybe switching out to Seymour Blackouts or EMG's, I have EMG's in my Epi Les Paul Prophecy and they sound pretty good, but I'm scared of messing with my "baby", my Gibson that is ideas?[/quote'] If youre into Metal why not. To me, thats all active electronics are good for. Id never do it, but I dont play metal with my historic. There are plenty of HO passive pickups out there too...shop around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 By far the most important aspect of an instrument is how it sounds. If you don't like the sound yours makes then it's worth trying out how to make it sound better. If you like EMG's then try it. It's not as if the alteration is irreversible if you change your mind (as long as you keep the original fittings). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shell Shock Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 Hey there, Another option....keeping it "Gibson", put 490R/498T's in it....slightly hotter pickups, definitely louder in the bridge position. Just my 2cents... Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 ....keeping it "Gibson"' date=' put 490R/498T's in it...[/quote'] Yup. ...or even the oft-despised 500T / 496R ceramics out of a 1960 Classic. Most swap them out because they are too hot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chase1410 Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 My deluxe with an 490r (neck) and BBpro (bridge) can handle metal no problem....its actually my favorite pickup for hardrock/metal music... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazue Posted June 15, 2010 Author Share Posted June 15, 2010 I think I'm going to look into those 500T and 496R, thanks for the input guys! This forum is so much more useful than Ultimate-Guitar's :) One other question tho, can you put the chrome covers over those pups? I think they may look odd in my les paul all naked like that :- haha, sorry for all the noob questions btw :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Paul Fanatic Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 I say go for it and see what you like because everybody's different however if I may be the voice of reason here dimarzio has some good pickups that are h/o try the crunchlab liquifire pup combo very nice cleans and very good overall balance with mids and what not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazue Posted June 15, 2010 Author Share Posted June 15, 2010 WOW I had never heard of those Dimarzios before, they sound amazing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepblue Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 No one has mentioned Gibsons Dirty Fingers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazue Posted June 16, 2010 Author Share Posted June 16, 2010 The Dirty Finger's sound good but they just don't sound as metal to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BentonC Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 You can put covers on the 496/500 pickup set. You'll need one neck position and one bridge position cover (they need to be soldered, so have a trusted tech do it if you've not done it before- it might save you the trouble of needing them re-potted from accidentally melting the wax... yes, that is a mistake I've made). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dem00n Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 The Dirty Finger's sound good but they just don't sound as metal to me Is that a joke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazue Posted June 16, 2010 Author Share Posted June 16, 2010 I heard them in an Epi Les Paul Prophecy, the GX with them, I have the EX version with the EMG's and the EMG's seem meaner :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dem00n Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 I heard them in an Epi Les Paul Prophecy' date=' the GX with them, I have the EX version with the EMG's and the EMG's seem meaner :)[/quote']Yeah but i can put emg's on a dead carcass with strings and then put it on a les paul R9 and ill get the same tones. IMHO EMG's are the worst pickups for metal and clean tone. And dont talk to me about the famous people that use them. Look at the amps they use, Kerry Kings amp is so ****ing amazing that he could use a ****ing begginer guitar on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazue Posted June 17, 2010 Author Share Posted June 17, 2010 lol, well im not too experienced in this field so ima try out some different pickups :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S t e v e Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 I have Burstbucker Pro's in my les paul and they sound great' date=' but I play alot of metal mostly and was wondering what you guy's take would be on maybe switching out to Seymour Blackouts or EMG's, I have EMG's in my Epi Les Paul Prophecy and they sound pretty good, but I'm scared of messing with my "baby", my Gibson that is :P ideas?[/quote'] i have reversed zebra burst-bucker and open coil burst-buckers in my GM sig les paul and IMO sound better than the pups in my 08 standard, i can't for one minute imagine why you would want to change them i play heavy stuff too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba_leon Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 Why not just get a high gain stomp box, like a Metal Muff. Lindy Fralin said it best. "Keep your pickups clean, let the pedals and the amp do the dirty work." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazue Posted June 22, 2010 Author Share Posted June 22, 2010 Wellll I ordered me some Dirty Fingers I was wondering though, on the Epi Prophecy model the pole pieces come gold O.o but the picture on the ones on the Gibson site and the place I ordered mine from seem to silver but its hard to tell :/ if they come gold is it possible to swap pole pieces from one pickup to another?? or will it destroy my tone? or can it even be done xD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluzhammer Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 Yeah but i can put emg's on a dead carcass with strings and then put it on a les paul R9 and ill get the same tones.IMHO EMG's are the worst pickups for metal and clean tone. And dont talk to me about the famous people that use them. Look at the amps they use' date=' Kerry Kings amp is so ****ing amazing that he could use a ****ing begginer guitar on it. [/quote'] Interesting, doesn't David Gilmour use active EMG pickups? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tepidy Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 EMG's are great for metal although I would not mess with your paul. As soon as you change your pickups (which is easy to do if you know how to solder) you drastically decrease the value of your les paul. Exception to this is, if your a major recording artist then you can do whatever you like. Flip side if this is your main axe and you do alot of gigs and your not concerned about ever selling your axe ever then go for it. Alternate of course is to buy a really great distortion/overdrive pedal and get your sound that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazue Posted June 28, 2010 Author Share Posted June 28, 2010 Well after much consideration I went with the gibson dirty fingers :( thnx to the dem00n who mentioned them, made me look a lot more into them.. and I'm not sure what creates the immense difference in sound between my Gibson and the Epi with the dirty fingers ( wood and construction? ) but WOW is all I can say. This pickups are HOT! they sound soooo much better than my EMGs in my other guitars! I left the pickup covers off, I may go back and put them on one day but I kinda like this look, its different :] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dem00n Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Interesting' date=' doesn't David Gilmour use active EMG pickups?[/quote']The list of amps he uses. Hiwatt (main) DR 103 heads into WEM Super Starfinder 200 4x12 cabinets loaded with Fane Crescendo speakers Fender '56 Tweed Twin amp (used for smaller concerts) Fender Twin Reverb combos Fender Twin Reverb II 1983 105 W heads Fender Bluesmaster Fender Blues Jr. Mesa Boogie Mark II C+ Alembic F2-B bass preamp Custom-built 'Doppola' rotating speakers (driven by the Hiwatt heads) Gallien/Krueger 250 ML combo amp Selmer Stereomaster 100 W Maestro Rover rotating speaker Leslie speaker 147 cabinet Marshall Late 60s super lead 100 W head Yamaha RA-200 revolving speaker cabinet Magnatone 280-A 50 W combo Alessandro Bluetick Coonhound High-End, 20 W Tube Amp Hiwatt SA212 combo Might as well put squier pups in his guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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