cujo Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 I've never seen a G400 like this http://cgi.ebay.com/EPIPHONE-SG-PROTOTYPE-EBONY-WITH-PEARLOID-PICKGUARD_W0QQitemZ120268308714QQihZ002QQcategoryZ33037QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem The seller says it's made in Nashville as a prototype....but the sticker on the back of the headstock says China.. The volume and tone pots are positioned like on a Gibson SG. Very strange if it's legit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RotcanX Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 The volume and tone pots are positioned like on a Gibson SG. Uhhh.... No. Nowhere near. You need to go look at a Gibson SG some more. Well' date=' he never actually claims it was [i']made[/i] in Nashville. That being said, it is a prototype, probably for the LE G-400 that they released with the...pearloid pickguard. I suppose what they may have done is grabbed a stock G-400 off the line and then fitted it with pearloid parts in Nashville. BFD... not worth $600 in my view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad1 Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 I think the pearloid PG and switch ring look horrible. I don't think I like it on the TRC either. It's "over-pearloided!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheX Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 Comes with original Epiphone box. That must be the extra couple hundred bucks worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafaelh Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 Mine has the black pearloid pickguard instead, but it's a made in Korea. Nothing special about them I don't think....at least not with mine. Ha.....be nice if they was worth 600 bucks. Here's a blurry picture of mine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cujo Posted June 7, 2008 Author Share Posted June 7, 2008 The volume and tone pots are positioned like on a Gibson SG. Uhhh.... No. Nowhere near. You need to go look at a Gibson SG some more. Ok I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everdying Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 The volume and tone pots are positioned like on a Gibson SG. Ok I did. uhhh no. the knobs dont line up from the jack to toggle switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RotcanX Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 Ok I did. Ok' date=' did you check the [i']angle[/i] of the Gibson knobs versus the G-400? The jack, top knobs, and switch are supposed to be on a line. On the G-400 they aren't. The four knobs are supposed to form a parallelogram, not a square. Oh, and the jack should be a lot closer to the edge of the body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daneman Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 EE G-400: The Qing daos have it closer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubstar Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 nice diagrams...they completely verify rotcanx's analysis...check the horizontal axis and the toggle switch... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Killmore Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 Why would Epiphone put "SG" on the truss rod cover when they call this model G-400? It seems like this guy put some custom made pearloid parts on this guitar and is just calling it a "rare" guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricochet Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 I think this is "their" latest trick. A lot of people are well aware of the fakes by now. So now "they" start calling it prototypes. Great explanation for the inaccuracies found in these type of guitars. What bothers me most, is these people lying through their teeth about it... "This guitar comes directly from the Gibson/Epiphone manufacturing facilities here in Nashville" I suppose if he meant parking lot technically he's not lying... Even if I would believe it to be a genuine Epiphone proto-type, I hardly believe they will indicate it as such labeling the box... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recycled Rocker Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 Hi blokes, this one looks very simular to mine even has the SG on the truss cover, could it have to do with the fact that they are made in China as a way of distinction at all?? If not and the one from "Nashville" is a fake than mine is to, scary!!! I bought mine from a very well known music shop in Melbourne, Australia, and it came straight out of the box. I was there when they bought it out and the salesman opened the box in front of me and my son. So this has me thinking if it is a fake than could they be made on mass and sold through dealers and how do I know if it's real or fake?? Cheers Ken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricochet Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 Why would Epiphone put "SG" on the truss rod cover when they call this model G-400? Yeah it's fishy, but it could be the same reason it used to say GIBSON on Epi's TRC, I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out_Of_Control Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 New G-400's sell for $350 all day long at GC and MF. I can't see spending extra money on a different pickguard. You'll never recoup the investment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matiac Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 A fake Epiphone...hm...fake...Epiphone...hmmmm...NAH! Someone added that stuff, I'm sure it's a real Epiphone, the Nashville story is real bullschitt though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenn1281733995 Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 I have the exact "prototype" G400. It was designated G400WP. I havent seen many though. Epiphone could not provide any info on it when I bought it. It was purchased new from an authorised dealer here in Australia in 2005. It aint nothing special, just a run of the mill G400 with pearloid dressings. S/N: EE05..... Ive seen it identified as EEG4WP. http://www.nokturnl.com/desertsounds/brands/epiphone.htm scroll down to "Electric Guitars" (no pic). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epinder Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 I've got a question regarding the serial number. The photo depicting the head stock shows: DW0509..... The last photo of the box shows: P-022....can't see the remaining numbers. Why? Glenn, maybe if you still have your original box, you could look and see if your numbers from the box and guitar match up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenn1281733995 Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 I've got a question regarding the serial number. The photo depicting the head stock shows: DW0509..... The last photo of the box shows: P-022....can't see the remaining numbers. Why? Glenn' date=' maybe if you still have your original box, you could look and see if your numbers from the box and guitar match up. [/quote'] No, I dont have the box any longer. It was in a standard Epiphone box. It definately did not have that Proto label on it. From memory, it had G400WP hand written on it with a sharpee. I now recall seeing one on Utube. I'll try a find it again. Hah! Found it. This aint me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLXxHFxQUsI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluelake07 Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 Your guitar was made at the Deawon Plant, China September 2005 Production Number: 4091 Daewon Musical Instrument Co. Daewon Musical Instrument Co., ltd. Established in Kyunggi-do, Korea in 1991. Established Daewon China factory in Dalian, Northern China In 2001. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron G Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 FYI, the Guitar Dater Project does not validate, in any way, the legitimacy of a serial number. For example: Your guitar was made at the Deawon Plant, China February 2011 Production Number: 1234 Edit: and they can't even spell Daewon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubstar Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 I think we are getting a bit crazy with the indications of what makes a fake...if you have the epiphone catalog, you can see that the vintage / faded G400 has "SG" on the TRC...and the series is called the "SG Series"...why do they put SG on the TRC? Obviously because of the Gibson connection! http://epiphone.com/default.asp?ProductID=25&CollectionID=16 http://www.epiphone.com/press/VINTG400-WB.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muskank Sally Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 RotcanX, If you didn't already know it was an Epiphone...what would give it away? (You can't see a name on the headstock) These knobs surely aren't in a square unless I'm blind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubstar Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 SG TRC http://www.epiphone.com/press/P_G400-CH.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RotcanX Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 RotcanX' date='If you didn't already know it was an Epiphone...what would give it away? (You can't see a name on the headstock) [img']http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h312/bobbydamm/SG%20Custom/158400163.jpg[/img] These knobs surely aren't in a square unless I'm blind. Well, the upper cutaway is the wrong shape. The bevels are a joke. The colour is so Epiphone. And the knobs are not in a square, you're right.. but they are still not in the correct positions. The output jack needs to be way closer to the edge. The volume knobs need to be a lot farther from the switch. Here's a backside shot of a genuine SG control cavity: ...check the required spacing between the volume knobs and the switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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