Ron G Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 Thanks, Spud. I hoped you'd add your expertise. And I stand corrected - thanks. You be a wealth of knowledge. I hope "emily" can find a good tech, like you. Edit: I need to remember not to overstep my knowledge quotient Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 I don't know **** so if the tech guy couldn't do it' date=' i can't.[/quote'] Listen, if "I" can change pickups, ANYONE can! LOL! If all things are equal, and you don't need all the routing, that Spud mentioned, it's really pretty straight forward. If it Does require, that kind of work, before hand, then yeah, a good "luthier" would be the way to go. CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roswell Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 Just pick up the right end of the soldering iron... Yes, I've made that mistake. Helpful, though. Can practice guitar for long periods of time as I have no feeling on two of my fingertips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RotcanX Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 If it Does require' date=' that kind of work, before hand,then yeah, a good "luthier" would be the way to go. CB[/quote'] Comma key sticking again, Chuck? :- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 Comma key sticking again' date=' Chuck? :- [/quote'] LOL! Old habits, my friend! I'll TRY to do better...I promise. (I don't guarantee anything, but I'll Try!) CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
custer Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 Does anyone know of a direct replacement P-90 that will fit the Epi Goldtop without any modification of the guitar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muskank Sally Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 Does anyone know of a direct replacement P-90 that will fit the Epi Goldtop without any modification of the guitar? Gibson would be a start. I like Lace Alumitone P-90's check those out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muskank Sally Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 Wow. I'm not the only one that has that exact saddle turned around right at the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldie Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 Does anyone know of a direct replacement P-90 that will fit the Epi Goldtop without any modification of the guitar? Lollar's fit right in mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
layboomo Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 Many after market p-90 size replacements like these lawrence mini's don't use the Gibson style metal bar attachments. They come with long wood screws and a block of foam to put under the pickup. It's a really easy solid install and height adjustment is much easier to be honest. You need a new tech IMHO. Hey Ron G Whats with the "Gorilla Biscuit" avatar.......just wondering if I missed some sort of Dan homage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carverman Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 Dimarzio makes 90-sized Super distortions?news to me. Anyway' date=' there's no way a "hole" can be in the way.[/quote'] Ian, this would be my guess. The replacement (Dimarzio super distortion P-90) is a soapbar style with mounting holes in the approximate area of the humbucker routed additional "hole" on each side of the main routed hole for the humbucker....the "void or jog" where the height adjusting bracket/spring/screw for the humbuckers are located. It can still be done, but a couple of custom wooden pieces would need to be glued in to fill the voids where the spring adjusters normally sit on the humbucker routed cavity. The Dimarzio P90 soap bar will cover up those "wood filled" voids and there is something solid to screw in the mounting screws on each side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carverman Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 Many after market p-90 size replacements like these lawrence mini's don't use the Gibson style metal bar attachments. They come with long wood screws and a block of foam to put under the pickup. It's a really easy solid install and height adjustment is much easier to be honest. You need a new tech IMHO. Yes they should be easy to install. The adjusted block of foam should set the height of the p_up, for neck or bridge use, but the problem of the actual p_up mtg screws still remains, if the traditional humbucker style adjuster "routed voids" are in the same location as the mtg screws..then the tech needs to make a couple of wooden (mahogany or whatever) "plugs" to fill the voids, and glue them in somehow..maybe at the bottom, so they can be removed in the future, if she decides to go back to hbuckers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carverman Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 Does anyone know of a direct replacement P-90 that will fit the Epi Goldtop without any modification of the guitar? Try GFS. They make a humbucker style p-90 (Mean 90). These may be close but they are not equivalent the ceramic superdistortion diMarzio P-90s. GFS also make a SC soapbar style p-90, but these may require some mounting additional work and not sure if the original p_up rings will fit properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funkwire Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 Try GFS. They make a humbucker style p-90 (Mean 90). These may be close but they are not equivalent the ceramic superdistortion diMarzio P-90s. GFS also make a SC soapbar style p-90' date=' but these may require some mounting additional work and not sure if the original p_up rings will fit properly. [/quote'] Custer was asking for a direct replacement for the '56 Gold Top, so the Mean 90 won't work (without routing). The Fralins in my Gold Top didn't need any mods to fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carverman Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 Custer was asking for a direct replacement for the '56 Gold Top' date=' so the Mean 90 won't work (without routing). The Fralins in my Gold Top didn't need any mods to fit.[/quote'] Ok. The Mean 90s "look" like they are in the same hbucker package as the Dream 90s, so I assumed they were the same size. I'll have to check on this by sending GFS a email to confirm the dimensions, since I'm thinking of trying a couple on one of my guitars, and I definitely don't want to do any routing. EDIT: I just got official confirmation from Jay at GFS.. "The Mean and Dream 90s are exact humbucker size- no routing needed. The Means are a little more authentic vintage P90 sound." So..I plan on using them on one of my Epis and if they sound as good as what I think they should sound, they are going on my next guitar carving project, the double cut LP style semi-acoustic "bluesm*ster". With the high cost of building a "one of", I really can't afford boutique P-ups, even though I would like them. Course, if I every win in the lottery pool I'm in... Gibs*n and boutique p_up manufacturers...I'll buy a pair of everything in the store. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
custer Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 Funkwire, I have never used Fralins, how do you like them? Where did you get them? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RotcanX Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 Does anyone know of a direct replacement P-90 that will fit the Epi Goldtop without any modification of the guitar? Most should drop right in. My Hot Seymour Duncan SP-90-2 went in to tye bridge spot without mods. It is only the Vintage P-90 model that is oversized. You can compare the dimensions on the Seymour Duncan web site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carverman Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 Listen' date=' if "I" can change pickups, ANYONE can! LOL! If all things are equal, and you don't need all the routing, that Spud mentioned, it's really pretty straight forward. If it Does require, that kind of work, before hand, then yeah, a good "luthier" would be the way to go. CB[/quote'] Yep! and we are all "luthiers" on this bus..;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldie Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 One modification I did when I replaced the OE pups with Lollar's, was to add a 1/4" piece of plywood at the bottom of the bridge pu rout to raise the pu closer to the strings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron G Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 Hey Ron G Whats with the "Gorilla Biscuit" avatar.......just wondering if I missed some sort of Dan homage? Lay, until I looked it up, I never heard of a "gorilla biscuit", so I wasn't even aware that it was a 'lude reference. Nothing to do with The Dan, tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funkwire Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 Funkwire' date=' I have never used Fralins, how do you like them? Where did you get them? Thanks[/quote'] The original owner installed them. I don't know if he bought them from a dealer or from Lindy's website. I love them. I had the opportunity to A/B them with a Gibson Gold Top RI with stock pickups (through a VJ!) and I preferred the Fralins. The Gibsons were GOOD...but had a midrange-y honk the Fralins don't have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 9, 2008 Share Posted August 9, 2008 Dcooper830 installed seymours in his Epi goldtop. Here are youtube links where he demonstrates before and after and names the model number of the new ones. Stock pickups. New pickups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheX Posted August 9, 2008 Share Posted August 9, 2008 Lay' date=' until I looked it up, I never heard of a "gorilla biscuit", so I wasn't even aware that it was a 'lude reference. Nothing to do with The Dan, tho. [/quote'] Lemmon's were the copys of the original Rorer 714's *wink* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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