Epiphones Popularity

[TWANG]

Your multitude of words is a joke at best' date=' but the foolishness of this pretty well sums it up. You have no clue.[/quote']

 

you have no argument. therefore few words.

all you've done is attack the messenger.

you didn't address the message.

this is what we call chickens**t isn't it?

 

TWANG

[Just Strum]

 

you have no argument. therefore few words.

all you've done is attack the messenger.

you didn't address the message.

this is what we call chickens**t isn't it?

 

TWANG

 

around here isn't it still referred to as chicken ****

[TWANG]

Any "Epi" that is an import is not an Epi in heart' date=' it just has the name. Epi's ended when Gibson bought them out. All these cheap imports are no different than the Samick's who plant many were made in or all the other cheap import companies that were paid to throw the Epi name on their stuff. And the new China ones, they are toys at best. A name on a headstock does not make the brand, sorry.[/quote']

 

Samick made some very nice guitars under their own brand.

There are plenty of guitar mag. reviews that have appeared backing that up.

Samick made some very nice epis, too.

 

You obviously don't know what a toy guitar is, or you'd tell us the whys and wherefores.

Instead you just toss nastiness around as if everyone should simply bow to your attitude.

 

A name on the headstock certainly does make the brand. Fenders that say Fender are Fenders.

No matter where, or how, they're made. If you disagree.. tell the manus.

There have been what folks might refer to as lean years for most manufacturers, gibson and fender included, but they are all and always were still gibsons and fenders.

 

I don't know what 'epi in heart' even means. And I don't think you do, either. It's a silly label.

Gibson bought out Epi long before the Beatles picked them out, but I suppose they were all wrong, too.

 

You keep talking about cheap import as if it's 1963 and you just got ripped off on an eight dollar transistor radio.

Maybe you should try the 21st century out.

 

TWANG

[JefferySmith]

Come on over to the other thread. We're fighting about the merits of cherry burst there.

 

When a real issue does emerge around here, I'm running for cover!

[TWANG]

 

around here isn't it still referred to as chicken ****

 

I stand corrected. 8-[/

 

tWANG

[Doth]

Edward Van Halen changed the world with $150 in guitar parts that were considered "seconds".

 

I do not know what wood or bristles were used in Leonardo De Vinci's La Gioconda or Michelangelo's Sistine Chapel. I do not know what chisels Michelangelo used on David. I do not know if Venus De Milo was carved using tools made of oak, mahogany, or poplar. I just know the final work. I would think that John Lennon's song, Imagine, would sound good on a toy guitar or if he sang it with no accompaniment.

 

The thought process that the tool makes the better artist, is a fallacy. If he were still alive, you could probably pose that question to Enzo Ferrari. A Ford GT40 made quick work of his high priced tools and winning legacy of the time.

 

Marx, I believe you have bad intentions. It pains me to see forum members that do so much to help others be discounted. If you do not like this forum, the solution is simple. Go away.

[WireWhipper]

Strum - I just noticed recently that the lead singer from Vampire Weekend plays an Epi Sheraton w/the pickguard removed.

[Just Strum]

Strum - I just noticed recently that the lead singer from Vampire Weekend plays an Epi Sheraton w/the pickguard removed.

 

Do I read your post as stating the Epi Sheraton is better than a Gibson? Well, some might read it that way.

 

Oh, and thanks for at least supporting the purpose of the thread.

[Beans]

 

 

 

So BACK TO TOPIC

 

Has anyone else noticed that Indie bands seem to be or were playing Epi's?

 

 

I have a theory on why so many indie bands like Epis... its quite simple really. Indie kids like to spend their money on clothes- fact. An Epiphone Semi or Hollow provides excellent value for money, tone, looks and playability leaving Mr Floppy Haircut/ Skinny Jeans to buy as many suit jackets/ pairs of shoes as possible. In Manchester (a city particularly famous for its Indie) their are plenty of floppy haired kids in bands and rock 'n' rollers like myself.... Epiphone is the most common name in venues around our city every night. I'm looking at getting another semi next year.... I have designs on a Casino.

 

Anyone who judges a musician on what name is written on their instrument cannot be a musician themselves. They are invariably morons.

[Just Strum]

 

 

I have a theory on why so many indie bands like Epis... its quite simple really. Indie kids like to spend their money on clothes- fact. An Epiphone Semi or Hollow provides excellent value for money' date=' tone, looks and playability leaving Mr Floppy Haircut/ Skinny Jeans to buy as many suit jackets/ pairs of shoes as possible. In Manchester (a city particularly famous for its Indie) their are plenty of floppy haired kids in bands and rock 'n' rollers like myself.... Epiphone is the most common name in venues around our city every night. I'm looking at getting another semi next year.... I have designs on a Casino.

 

Anyone who judges a musician on what name is written on their instrument cannot be a musician themselves. They are invariably morons. [/quote']

 

 

[stan 58]

It just seems lately, that on both Epi sites it's become cool to bash Epis, ie there is no cap on the LPs, There way to shiney, there feet stink and there full of S*it, ect. Well i'm a Gibson/ Epi man and i think they make great guitars, and i guess i'll never be cool, which is cool. Stan.

[Beans]

It just seems lately' date=' that on both Epi sites it's become cool to bash Epis, ie there is no cap on the LPs, There way to shiney, there feet stink and there full of S*it, ect. Well i'm a Gibson/ Epi man and i think they make great guitars, and i guess i'll never be cool, which is cool. Stan.[/quote']

 

Stan IMO there is nothing cooler than knowing what you like. I'm also a Gibson/ Epi man and am very happy with it, regardless of what anyone thinks.

[Just Strum]

...and i guess i'll never be cool' date=' which is cool. Stan.[/quote']

 

You're cool.

[WireWhipper]

Personally I'm glad the indie kids are playing Epiphones. When they get famous and people notice what they're playing, maybe the resale value of our Epis will go up! Who knew what Fender Mustangs and Jaguars were in the early 90's until Kurt Cobain starting playing them.

[Ricochet]

It just seems lately' date=' that on both Epi sites it's become cool to bash Epis, ie there is no cap on the LPs, There way to shiney, there feet stink and there full of S*it, ect. Well i'm a Gibson/ Epi man and i think they make great guitars, and i guess i'll never be cool, which is cool. Stan.[/quote']

 

Bash Epi? I dunno..."voiced concerns" maybe... And only because we really love our Epis!

 

and I always thought it was cool to be uncool...

[Ricochet]

I have a theory on why so many indie bands like Epis... its quite simple really. Indie kids like to spend their money on clothes- fact.

 

Interesting theory... By the same token' date=' the kids who value looks and posture [i']that[/i] much, must all be playing Gibsons...

[Beans]

 

Interesting theory... By the same token' date=' the kids who value looks and posture [i']that[/i] much, must all be playing Gibsons...

 

 

Haha, not necessarily.... Sheratons and Casinos are both rather attractive looking, though I do not believe Floppy Haircuts or Skinny jeans are, no matter what all the beautiful girls around here think.....:D

[Guitar Chico]

 

 

Haha' date=' not necessarily.... Sheratons and Casinos are both rather attractive looking, though I do not believe Floppy Haircuts or Skinny jeans are, no matter what all the beautiful girls around here think.....:D [/quote']

 

Yet why is it that those "emo" MTV bands always seem to play sheris and casinos? Wouldn't it look more "in place" if they were playing some ltds. or ibanez's or something? There's some food for thought...

 

GC

[lefty52]

Hi all,

I just wanted to add my .02 to the discussion. I’ve been playing guitar since 1968, my first electric was a Fender Telecaster, left handed. Since then I’ve owned almost every major brand of electric and acoustic guitar. Like most of us GAS is a bad disease. So when after a 15 year electric guitar hiatus, I started looking, it was for a 335 style. I’m fortunate to live in a major metro area where “quality” guitar stores are in abundance. After looking at a number of Gibson ES335’s and Epiphone dots, I came to the conclusion that an Epi was a good base guitar to start. Also being left handed the lefty choices were limited.

 

After finding a 2004 dot with case for 299.00, I started the mods. Basically I striped the dot down to the body /neck. Epi doesn’t make the Casinos in lefty anymore and I wanted the P90 sound, so I installed Seymour Duncan “Phat Cats” , 4 new CTS 500K pots, 2 Sprague .022 Orange Drop caps, Switchcraft toggle and ¼” jack, Gotoh nickel bridge/tailpiece, aged black speed knobs and Grover nickel “keystone” tuners . Total cost $315 including shipping. So, total for the guitar and upgrades and labor, $665.00.

 

I’m not a beginner and I’m not unable or unwilling to pay for quality, but when I looked at the fit and finish of the Gibson 335’s and the Epiphone dot’s, side by side, there really wasn’t much that would make me spend $2000.00 more. If I were making my living making music, well heck I’d probably be getting some kind of endorsement anyway.

Right now I own as good a guitar as I need and one that I’m sure will last the rest of my life and then some.

 

As I drive around and I see guys in their 40’s/50’s driving hot little sports cars, aimed at the younger generation, I think (much the same as when I read Marx Brothers post) sorry about your penis! It’s all about ego or lack thereof.

If Epiphones today aren't then what are Gibsons?

Gibson hasn’t been Gibson since what, since they moved from Kalamazoo, since Norlin bought them, I mean really guys, is Fender the same since Leo sold it to CBS?

[MarxBros]

Hi all' date='

I just wanted to add my .02 to the discussion. I’ve been playing guitar since 1968, my first electric was a Fender Telecaster, left handed. Since then I’ve owned almost every major brand of electric and acoustic guitar. Like most of us GAS is a bad disease. So when after a 15 year electric guitar hiatus, I started looking, it was for a 335 style. I’m fortunate to live in a major metro area where “quality” guitar stores are in abundance. After looking at a number of Gibson ES335’s and Epiphone dots, I came to the conclusion that an Epi was a good base guitar to start. Also being left handed the lefty choices were limited.

 

After finding a 2004 dot with case for 299.00, I started the mods. Basically I striped the dot down to the body /neck. Epi doesn’t make the Casinos in lefty anymore and I wanted the P90 sound, so I installed Seymour Duncan “Phat Cats” , 4 new CTS 500K pots, 2 Sprague .022 Orange Drop caps, Switchcraft toggle and ¼” jack, Gotoh nickel bridge/tailpiece, aged black speed knobs and Grover nickel “keystone” tuners . Total cost $315 including shipping. So, total for the guitar and upgrades and labor, $665.00.

 

I’m not a beginner and I’m not unable or unwilling to pay for quality, but when I looked at the fit and finish of the Gibson 335’s and the Epiphone dot’s, side by side, there really wasn’t much that would make me spend $2000.00 more. If I were making my living making music, well heck I’d probably be getting some kind of endorsement anyway.

Right now I own as good a guitar as I need and one that I’m sure will last the rest of my life and then some.

 

As I drive around and I see guys in their 40’s/50’s driving hot little sports cars, aimed at the younger generation, I think (much the same as when I read Marx Brothers post) sorry about your penis! It’s all about ego or lack thereof.

If Epiphones today aren't then what are Gibsons?

Gibson hasn’t been Gibson since what, since they moved from Kalamazoo, since Norlin bought them, I mean really guys, is Fender the same since Leo sold it to CBS?

[/quote']If I were you I'd post this dribbling nonsense in every thread.

 

 

Wait...you already that.

[stan 58]

So thats the reason i drive a Corvette. Thanks for pointing that out to me Mr. Lefty, or should i say Dr. Lefty. Stan.

[TWANG]

it's a point using a stereotype.. the second childhood of middle aged men..

but so is the argument about gibson versus epiphone as represented my marxist...

 

I've seen guys in here post gibs and epis. same finish etc. and often the epis looked better.

 

and I notice noboby addressed the points he made, re: norlin, cbs, etc.

sometimes snob purist anal and stubborn are interchangeable words, methinks.

 

I'd gladly record my sheri or epi lp studio and then dare someone to use the same amp, same recording device and prove to me

that their gibson sounded better to the majority of people in this forum fi there were a way.

Not being able to make that comparison is really all that keeps this argument alive.

 

 

 

TWANG

[Just Strum]

Not being able to make that comparison is really all that keeps this argument alive.

 

 

 

TWANG

 

and the endless desire to discuss it.

[TWANG]

let's discuss that!

 

TWANG

[Just Strum]

let's discuss that!

 

TWANG

 

I would, but I am going to go watch the Home Shopping Network for awhile. The woman that sells jewelry is HOT!!! After that, maybe take in some ESPN arm wrestling.