WhiteSpruce Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 K as some of you might have seen im depending on buying an epiphone sheraton that i won off of ebay (korean) or getting one from a local music store (chinease) im very torn but i happen to notice that when looking at the headstock on the ebay one the line in the "E" is longer than all the others i have found. below ill provide links but is there different "E's" depending on what year the guitar is? Ebay guitar --- http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&hash=item43a3a1af68&item=290508091240&nma=true&pt=Guitar&rt=nc&si=CH0tliLlSmBXXYOYpRCYaDA00po%253D#ht_500wt_1156 Google. --- http://www.zikinf.com/_gfx/matos/dyn/large/epiphone-sheraton-ii_3.jpg you can see that the E's are different. any help would be great thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigneil Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 I can't see any difference <shrug> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyw Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 The only difference I can see is caused by the different angles the photos were taken at. *shrug* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinTheHood Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 The headstock shape, tuner positioning and inlay details are vastly different from one another as well. I dont know if that means anything, as I'm not familiar with Sheratons, but I can see a huge difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aymara Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 you can see that the E's are different. Yes, I see the difference and I can understand that you might be anxious, you bought a Fake Epi. But I think everything is fine. Here's a headstock of an old Sheraton with the old E: On newer models the line in the middle of the E is longer to the right, as it is on my brand new Les Paul Tribute too, which I bought from Thomann, so I'm 99% shure, I didn't buy a Fake Epi. So your Ebay shot should be an original too. PS: Here's a headstock with the newer E, I found on Elderly.com PPS: HERE's further one from 1991. BTW ... I also found one from 2010 with the short E line, so it's not a matter of the year of production. Also the plant image on the headstock seams to be always different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aymara Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 That isn't a new Sheraton headstock..... Yeah, as I said in the PPS ... the E difference doesn't seem to be a matter of the year of production. Any further info? Maybe also about the plant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSpruce Posted December 11, 2010 Author Share Posted December 11, 2010 So now i have no idea what to do. I have people saying both. i still dont understand is it fake or legit? Any further info would be really helpful? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aymara Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 I stole the pics from CB.... Wow, the tuners look great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aymara Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 ... is it fake or legit? Mmh, I think, so far we can't be absolutely shure ... maybe the serial number from the back of the headstock would help more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSpruce Posted December 11, 2010 Author Share Posted December 11, 2010 Mmh, I think, so far we can't be absolutely shure ... maybe the serial number from the back of the headstock would help more? he gave me the serial number BUT i havent seen it. He said this was it. R03B0896 already searched it and got: February 2003 Peerless Plant Korea i cant see why he would sell a fake sheraton though he has a huge rep on ebay and has 100% positive feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fringe Lunatic Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 This is not authoritative, but in my 3+ years of perusing these forums, I have never seen a report of a counterfeit Sheraton. The fakes almost always seem to be Les Pauls, which are, of course, a much bigger seller. However, I have seen many minor differences in the same model made in different factories and/or in different years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amx05462 Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 i have the long slash e on my epi 56 gold top. and its a legit guitar. dont worry bout the little things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennisMiller Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 I have no idea whether the guitar is real or not, but one problem we keep hearing about counterfeit golf clubs is that the people in China who make the counterfeits are copying real serial numbers. Needless to say, they will make quite a few of the same serial number, but the point is, unscrupulous people making fake guitars can't be far behind. Is there any other way, shy of sending the guitar to Gibson, to know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilpanda Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 the E decal on the pickguard fell off :angry: so I stuck some glue on it ans it sits on my case now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennisMiller Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 the E decal on the pickguard fell off :angry: so I stuck some glue on it ans it sits on my case now My new Dot arrived yesterday with the E already factory uninstalled and lying loose in the box. I stuck it in a drawer full of guitar parts. I have no idea why I kept it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilpanda Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 My new Dot arrived yesterday with the E already factory uninstalled and lying loose in the box. I stuck it in a drawer full of guitar parts. I have no idea why I kept it. yea the adhesive they put on it is terribad. got a case? glue it on there like I did. looks pretty good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aymara Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 That's how a FAKE Sheraton Headstock looks like..... That's a bad copy as we saw it on Les Pauls too, but newest Les Paul fakes came very close to the original as was reported on the MLP forums. I remember someone reporting, that he didn't notice anything until he screwed out a pickup and saw MDF wood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobouz Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 Well, something is not jiving here. The guitar looks like the John Lee Hooker Sheraton USA model that was closed out minus the JLH moniker (and sold for $1000). The headstock, logo, and mini-humbuckers all look right. The body on that model was made by Terada in Japan and shipped to Gibson for assembly & electronics. A VERY nice guitar, if that indeed is what it is. Now here's the problem. The serial number corresponds to a 2003 guitar made in Korea by Peerless. So what gives? The Peerless company would certainly be capable of making such a guitar, but if it's truly made by Peerless, the value is going to be less than a Terada made Sheraton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennisMiller Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 That's really interesting. Have you ever run into a fake instrument that was actually as good or better than the one it tried to copy? I've heard stories about some Strats that were copied in Asia before Fender made some in Japan and how they were actually very good guitars. I've never seen one to know, just heard about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitmore Willy Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 Have you ever run into a fake instrument that was actually as good or better than the one it tried to copy? Most of the fakes I have seen were made of "Glit" (Glue and Sh*t) Willy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aymara Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 Have you ever run into a fake instrument that was actually as good or better than the one it tried to copy? Yes, a Les Paul shown in the MLP forums ... the buyer didn't notice it's a fake, before he screwed out a pickup and saw the MDF wood. It even sounded very good, he reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aymara Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 Was it a white Custom ? If I remember it right, it was a Black Beauty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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