newlife15 Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 Hi Everyone, I have a chance to obtain an Epi Casino 2003 model from the Peerless Factory. I was in Sam Ash the other day and Was really liking the Sound of the current P-90's. coming out of China. So someone is selling me their Casino in Cherry. Does anyone have One of these Peerless models? and what if any differences are there in the P-90's used back then. Thanks, Newlife Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PickyPick Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 hahaha.. i didnt know you were a Gibson Forum Member... Out of context im the one selling XD... what a twist of luck eh? :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ti-Ti Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 I've got a Casino Peerless 2000 cherry red, it is a really a good guitar, finishing is exemplary, P90s are good enough and I renounce to put USA P90s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newlife15 Posted September 20, 2011 Author Share Posted September 20, 2011 hahaha.. i didnt know you were a Gibson Forum Member... Out of context im the one selling XD... what a twist of luck eh? :P Is this you Mr. A? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitmore Willy Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 I have a chance to obtain an Epi Casino 2003 model from the Peerless Factory. If it sounds good to you and you want it.....go for it! Otherwise, there is another one waiting around the corner. Come on, Life is a crap shoot. We educate ourselves and do the best we can. We got to get lucky sometimes. I haven't played the guitar so I can't say how good it (or it's pickups) are. Peerless guitars are generally known for their quality. P-90s (like most pickups) are a matter of taste. Mine is all in my mouth. I wish you luck. Sounds like it could be a good guitar. As to P-90s, my favorites were built by Bob. Willy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobouz Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 Does anyone have One of these Peerless models? and what if any differences are there in the P-90's used back then. The general consensus has been that the Korean P90s from this era are quite good, and better than humbuckers from the same era for producing tones that get close to their Gibson counterparts. The sound from my stock '04 Peerless Casino is very pleasant: a bit dark, but not muddy at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluelake07 Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 I have a 2003 Peerless Casino and the P90's are "hot" with Neck @ 11.6 kOhms and Bridge @ 12.2 kOhms. I don't know if the pickups in the regular Chinese Casinos are the same as those. The higher-priced Casinos have the vintage winds of around 8 kOhms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newlife15 Posted September 21, 2011 Author Share Posted September 21, 2011 I have a 2003 Peerless Casino and the P90's are "hot" with Neck @ 11.6 kOhms and Bridge @ 12.2 kOhms. I don't know if the pickups in the regular Chinese Casinos are the same as those. The higher-priced Casinos have the vintage winds of around 8 kOhms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newlife15 Posted September 21, 2011 Author Share Posted September 21, 2011 Any Idea when Epiphone stopped using the Korean factories and started all of their production in China? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicmaker99 Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 I just sold my Peerles Casino and am totally regretting it after playing a new Chinese model. The pups are fine but the overall feel of the current MIC doesn't compare in the least to the Peerless. The weight, the feel, everything was vastly superior in the Peerless. It was like night and day. Buy it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versatile Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 A parallel and not totally unconnected riposte.... Regarding Casinos, Peerless etc Value for money wise most Casinos are excellent whether Chinese, Korean, Japanese or whatever I recently sold a Peerless Songbird(Casino clone) which sadly I never bonded with despite excellent build and looks I then purchased a Gibson ES 330, which is what used to be the 'badge brother' to the Casino A guitar with direct lineage to the USA Casino back in the 60's-70's etc Priced at around 335 level, a guitar with great build and pickup quality With arguably more character than most current Casinos.... V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgrasso Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 My 96 Peerless Casino is one of my best. Switched out all of the electronics except the pickups. Plays and sounds as good as any Gibson I have played IMO. Very sweet. Buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newlife15 Posted September 21, 2011 Author Share Posted September 21, 2011 I will try and post pics tonight when I get home. First impressions are very good. Needs a fret cleaning and new strings but the guitar is very well set up. Low action , and the guy I purchased it from had not played it in some time but when I strummed a chord guitar was in tune. WOW!! I will need to replace one of the knobs since a small piece had chipped off but other than a small ding by the binding the guitar is in excellent shape. Plays well without being plugged in and very light compared to my sheri and DOT. I play clean so it'll go through my fender deluxe reissue and my Roland 80xl for that nice jc120 sound. Anyone know where I can find the knobs which fit this guitar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PickyPick Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 I will try and post pics tonight when I get home. First impressions are very good. Needs a fret cleaning and new strings but the guitar is very well set up. Low action , and the guy I purchased it from had not played it in some time but when I strummed a chord guitar was in tune. WOW!! I will need to replace one of the knobs since a small piece had chipped off but other than a small ding by the binding the guitar is in excellent shape. Plays well without being plugged in and very light compared to my sheri and DOT. I play clean so it'll go through my fender deluxe reissue and my Roland 80xl for that nice jc120 sound. Anyone know where I can find the knobs which fit this guitar? Hey i'm glad the guitar is working out for you. and i think standard Gibson Knobs fit over epi's... or atleast thats what i did with my Sheraton when i bought it Gibson Speed Knobs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newlife15 Posted September 21, 2011 Author Share Posted September 21, 2011 Yes nice setup. Just going to change strings and clean up frets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newlife15 Posted September 21, 2011 Author Share Posted September 21, 2011 They never have stopped producing guitars in Korea ! actually Epis are made in Japan, Korea, China, Indonesia and some in US I was under the impression that they now have all of their manufacturing under one roof. Two factories in China. So,is there any standard to what they outsource and what they build in-house? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newlife15 Posted September 21, 2011 Author Share Posted September 21, 2011 AFAIK there is no standard other than 'Entry level models' are made in Indonesia IIRC Mr. Jim Epi Rosenberg told this at the 4Henry forum last year The Emperor Regent and the Nick Valensie Riviera are actually made at Unsung, Korea and some weeks ago there have been some Ebony SG400 at Sweetwater with factorycode 21 Elitist Casino is the only Japan made guitar and of course the expensive US models are made or assambled in US I may be naive but wouldn't it be cost effective to have all guitars built in their dedicated factories? why different countries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newlife15 Posted September 21, 2011 Author Share Posted September 21, 2011 Their own factories can't produce all the pieces they actually sell.... well time for them to open a third factory unless that would be cost prohibitive. what i dont understand is that in their own words "They needed their own dedicated factories with its own employees" so outsourcing their business seems counterproductive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaSTuS Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 I will try and post pics tonight when I get home. First impressions are very good. Needs a fret cleaning and new strings but the guitar is very well set up. Low action , and the guy I purchased it from had not played it in some time but when I strummed a chord guitar was in tune. WOW!! Congrats on the Cassy NL, they're a fantastic guitar, hope you have a lot of fun with yours, HNGD mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newlife15 Posted September 21, 2011 Author Share Posted September 21, 2011 Cheers Ras don't you have one as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaSTuS Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 Cheers Ras don't you have one as well? No mate, I have several hollows and semis but none of them are Epis, that might change soon with the new ES series and the Ultra 339 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notes_Norton Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 I've got a 2001 Peerless and it is an excellent, well built guitar. I bought it slightly used. The original owner put Duncan P90 pickups on it, so I can't help you with that -- but I can say the to my ears the Duncans sound even better than the Gibson pickups on my 1970 ES-330. Notes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newlife15 Posted September 22, 2011 Author Share Posted September 22, 2011 Really nice pics. I hope to take some pics this weekend. I took some but they came out too dark. I will wait for Saturday and take them during the day. Which one do you play more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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