Rocky4 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 To the best of my knowledge, a looper pedal is an effect that records, or samples a riff or bit of playing and repeats it over and over giving the player something to play over. Amirite? (more questions to follow as answers come in) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dub-T-123 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Yep. And you set the length of the recorded phrase and can usually record several layers. It's one of my favorite effects Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfpup Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Yep. That's what my BOSS RC20 did. I think you can keep adding layers/sounds to most of them too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky4 Posted February 29, 2012 Author Share Posted February 29, 2012 So you play, hit a switch and it samples what you're playing? It seems like getting the timing correct would be next to impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vega1 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 So you play, hit a switch and it samples what you're playing? It seems like getting the timing correct would be next to impossible. It easier than it sounds actually, you lay down a groove and off you go on top of it. SImilar to setting up a drum pattern to play over on a drum machine if you've ever used one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rocky4 Posted February 29, 2012 Author Share Posted February 29, 2012 It easier than it sounds actually, you lay down a groove and off you go on top of it. SImilar to setting up a drum pattern to play over on a drum machine if you've ever used one. For example, could I play a simple riff, sample it while playing, and have it continue on while I play over it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub-T-123 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 So you play, hit a switch and it samples what you're playing? It seems like getting the timing correct would be next to impossible. Eh. You hit the switch at the same time as you start playing and then hit it again when you want the loop to end/repeat. It takes practice and it's extremely difficult to use with a drummer, but it's and acquired skill like anything else and it just takes practice. But yeah unless your loop is so blurred with delay and reverb that it's just an atmospheric wash and the actual timing isn't that apparent/important you'll pretty much never use it successfully with a drummer/band. If you can, you are absolutely amazing to me. In a band context it's mostly useful for ambient backdrops. If you're using some kindof midi controller that controls a drum machine and your looper then obviously the timing wouldn't be a problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vega1 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 For example, could I play a simple riff, sample it while playing, and have it continue on while I play over it? Exactly. Lay down a rhythm line for example, then practice soloing over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky4 Posted February 29, 2012 Author Share Posted February 29, 2012 Exactly. Lay down a rhythm line for example, then practice soloing over it. Thanks, I gotta have one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Yes, and also alot of pedals quantises the recording for you and puts it in time.... so if its a bit out it will sort that out for you (timing wise).. like what this guy does alot.. gets a rhythm going and then leads over it They actually have looping contests.. check this dude out (it gets really good about 1:45 ;)).. Just search Boss looping contest on youtube, loads of cool stuff out there :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub-T-123 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Quantifying certainly doesn't make a looper good or bad. Personally I don't want it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest farnsbarns Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Most loopers quanatise the moment you hit start and stop so some inaccuracy is not a problem. Check out GregsGuitars on YT, he uses his boss a lot and he gets the timing perfect because the pedal quanatises the timing for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vega1 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 They actually have looping contests.. check this dude out.. Just search Boss looping contest on youtube, loads of cool stuff out there :) He came in 2nd? Gotta tell you, a little board with that guy until about 1:45, then it was pretty cool. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub-T-123 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Most loopers quanatise the moment you hit start and stop so some inaccuracy is not a problem. Check out GregsGuitars on YT, he uses his boss a lot and he gets the timing perfect because the pedal quanatises the timing for him Nope I think he just gets it right because he knows how to. Trust me whether you have "quanatizing" or not the slight timing issues become apparent when you add in a band. It's usually not the beginning or end that are the problem it's what's in between. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 He came in 2nd? Gotta tell you, a little board with that guy until about 1:45, then it was pretty cool. :-) Haha, yeah i put a warning in there now cos it is a bit normal till that point ;) Grand Prize Winner 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Nope I think he just gets it right because he knows how to. Trust me whether you have "quanatizing" or not the slight timing issues become apparent when you add in a band. It's usually not the beginning or end that are the problem it's what's in between. I agree with you.. Timing is really important.. But these are great for jamming alone, just so quick and easy to do its a nice gadget but wont ever replace real hard practice to get tight in a band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Ive posted this before but heres a great example from one of the masters Mr John Paul Jones.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5xhP8KwHbY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub-T-123 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Yep they're incredibly useful for playing by yourself but pretty useless with others. That's all I'm saying. Also quanatizing is bullshit IMO its not a selling point but to each their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad1 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 I agree with you.. Timing is really important.. But these are great for jamming alone, just so quick and easy to do its a nice gadget but wont ever replace real hard practice to get tight in a band. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdgm Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 I want one for the Bill Frisell effect..a bit of reverse loop at the start or end of a piece adds interest. I would like a Boomerang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGBENDS Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 My looper is the best piece of songwriting equipment i have, other than myself. Wish I had one 30 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky4 Posted March 1, 2012 Author Share Posted March 1, 2012 I've got another question. If I'm running this through an amp and I turn on a drum beat, won't the beat have the same gain ( and thus sound horrible) as my guitar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Alot of them have built in drums too :) check Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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