onewilyfool Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Got a wonderful National Tri-cone style 1 today. I can play it in normal mode (tuned E to E) or in open tunings with a slide (any advice or help in how to play this thing would be helpful, Youtube lessons, etc. I got this to disproove the old saying, "You can't teach an old dog new tricks...", lol. Same as this link: http://www.nationalguitars.com/instruments/style1/style1.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojorule Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Got a wonderful National Tri-cone style 1 today. I can play it in normal mode (tuned E to E) or in open tunings with a slide (any advice or help in how to play this thing would be helpful, Youtube lessons, etc. I got this to disproove the old saying, "You can't teach an old dog new tricks...", lol. Same as this link: http://www.nationalguitars.com/instruments/style1/style1.html Oh, that's very nice. I want one! Or one of the wooden bodied M1s. No hope. Ever. PM, JT, ball in your court, I believe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParlourMan Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Ooooh, very nice! A lot fancier than my resonator. I have a tricone by 'Busker', nice guitar but not in the same league as a National. Tip of the cap to you OWF. May you have many many happy years from it. Lovely. * I'd love one of those wooden body jobs, mojo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versatile Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 HNNRD !! Join the elite club of reso players Some people play 'em in std tuning to enjoy the bright cutting tone Others explore the delights of 'open' tunings like.... G...DGDGBD D...DADF#AD Worth experimenting with different slides and playing positions too... Conventional around the neck...horizontal from a neck strap...flat on the lap Glass bottle-neck, chrome-brass or steel slide, Shubb style lap-steel tone bar... Huge enjoyment guaranteed V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojorule Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Open D minor or E minor for Skip James moments? Looking forward to PM's next NGD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 the opening riff from romeo and juliet in open G on a national . just lovely congrats wily , big jealous head on me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojorule Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 the opening riff from romeo and juliet in open G on a national . just lovely congrats wily , big jealous head on me Presumably Rota and not Prokoviev? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 lol knopfler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojorule Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 It's all in the timing. Knopfler a good Hungarian boy by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jt Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 A National tricone. Now we're talking! Congratulations. I do have a tricone, a 1931 German silver variant. I think that it's a beautiful thing. I typically play it in either open G or open D and sometimes slap it into standard tuning, too. I think that tricones sound wonderful. As for what to play on them and how to learn to do so, I've followed my usual methodology of bumbling along on my own and accumulating a bunch of bad habits that I'll eventually call my own style. I've been particularly intrested in playing stuff that no one else plays on a National. Here is my not-all-that-successful attempt at an old time tune, in open D: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaVaJVunaW0&feature=youtube_gdata_player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfox14 Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 A National tricone. Now we're talking! Congratulations. I do have a tricone, a 1931 German silver variant. I think that it's a beautiful thing. I typically play it in either open G or open D and sometimes slap it into standard tuning, too. I think that tricones sound wonderful. As for what to play on them and how to learn to do so, I've followed my usual methodology of bumbling along on my own and accumulating a bunch of bad habits that I'll eventually call my own style. I've been particularly intrested in playing stuff that no one else plays on a National. Here is my not-all-that-successful attempt at an old time tune, in open D: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaVaJVunaW0&feature=youtube_gdata_player Nice playing JT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambler Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Wiley, three words: right. hand. damping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParlourMan Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Out of curiosity, what did you trade in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Also wondering what did ya trade for it? I have been playing Nationals since the 1960s and obviously love the heck out of them since I am still playing them. Once you figure out the damping, there is really no trick to them - if you don't want to slap a bottleneck on your finger they take well to just fingerpicking, especially with a Tricone that sounds a bit smoother with not as quick a note decay as the single cones have. I play mostly in Drop D and Open D, G, E, C, and Dm. Here be my baby - a 1931-32 Duolian. Original dark brown color (unless you hold it up to direct sunlight though it looks more black these days). I always thought it had been repainted but later found that a handful were made with this color scheme. This one comes with a little extra Mojo as John Hammond, Jr. noodled around with it for a couple of days while recording in a converted church. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dchristo Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Also wondering what did ya trade for it? I have been playing Nationals since the 1960s and obviously love the heck out of them since I am still playing them. Once you figure out the damping, there is really no trick to them - if you don't want to slap a bottleneck on your finger they take well to just fingerpicking, especially with a Tricone that sounds a bit smoother with not as quick a note decay as the single cones have. I play mostly in Drop D and Open D, G, E, C, and Dm. Here be my baby - a 1931-32 Duolian. Original dark brown color (unless you hold it up to direct sunlight though it looks more black these days). I always thought it had been repainted but later found that a handful were made with this color scheme. This one comes with a little extra Mojo as John Hammond, Jr. noodled around with it for a couple of days while recording in a converted church. hey zomby, love that silvertone amp...I had one just like it, and a silvertone guitar, I wished I still had um Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigKahune Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 . Nice trade Wily - Reso-man. . B) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onewilyfool Posted April 5, 2012 Author Share Posted April 5, 2012 Wiley, three words: right. hand. damping. Rambler, will work on it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onewilyfool Posted April 5, 2012 Author Share Posted April 5, 2012 Out of curiosity, what did you trade in? Parlor man, a Collings OM-1....I may have left a couple of hundred on the table, but I wasn't playing my Collings and he wasn't playing his National, so was a match for both of us. I'm happy with the trade! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onewilyfool Posted April 5, 2012 Author Share Posted April 5, 2012 I'm still playing it in standard tuning, BUT it sounds great AND I can play all my Robert Johnson stuff on it , no sweat. Old strings will need to be changed, chording (especially Jazz chording) REALLY sounds good on this thing, great compression sound......AND......this thing is LOUD.....lol....AND .......U.S.A. made!!! Right here in the golden state!!! One great thing about NGD's is that the new guitar inspires me to practice and learn new things......Thanks for all the comments guys!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onewilyfool Posted April 5, 2012 Author Share Posted April 5, 2012 Last but not least.....what string guage and brands are you guys using on your Nationals??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 National sends them out with John Pearce Spanish Neck resonator strings (13s) so you might try starting with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jt Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Last but not least.....what string guage and brands are you guys using on your Nationals??? If you're gonna play in standard tuning, then I'd recommend sticking with the strings that you prefer on your conventional guitars. But, if you drop to G or D tuning, you're gonna want to fatten up both the high and low end strings. I like the John Pearse resophonic strings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluesKing777 Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Congratulation OWF. Get the Bob Brozman before you go any further - if you don't have it already.... http://www.homespuntapes.com/Instruments/Guitar/learn-to-play-bottleneck-blues-guitar-three-dvd-set BluesKing777. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrorod Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Sounds like a mighty good trade, Wily...Congrats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dotneck Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Great guitar...I love a good Tricone. I've got a Vintage Steel and a M1. Thought I would sell the VS when I got the M1 but couldn't bear to let her go. Just put fresh string on her last week...I've been using the John Pearse resonator set in PB. I pretty much keep my Nationals in open D... Have fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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