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Possible NGD! Hummingbird 12 string Limited Edition

#21 User is offline   FZ Fan 

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Posted 07 November 2018 - 06:12 PM

View Postdrathbun, on 07 November 2018 - 05:02 PM, said:

The Hummingbird is MINE! [biggrin] [biggrin] [biggrin]

I made the deal today and traded in my Taylor. Before I took the Taylor into the shop, I took out the Collosi bone saddle and custom bone/ebony dot bridge pins and replaced the saddle with the stock Taylor one and the pins with plastic.

I'm going to put the Collosi pins into the Hummingbird and see if they fit. If they don't, I'll be sanding a lot of little pins for a few days.

I will also be drilling the heel to put in a strap button.


That's nice.
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Posted 07 November 2018 - 06:46 PM

View Postdrathbun, on 07 November 2018 - 05:02 PM, said:

The Hummingbird is MINE! [biggrin] [biggrin] [biggrin]

I made the deal today and traded in my Taylor. Before I took the Taylor into the shop, I took out the Collosi bone saddle and custom bone/ebony dot bridge pins and replaced the saddle with the stock Taylor one and the pins with plastic.

I'm going to put the Collosi pins into the Hummingbird and see if they fit. If they don't, I'll be sanding a lot of little pins for a few days.

I will also be drilling the heel to put in a strap button.



Good call, and congratulations!
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Posted 07 November 2018 - 07:06 PM

Thanks for all your comments.

Nothing says "my guitar" like drilling a hole in a new instrument! I put a gold strap button on the Hummingbird.

I also removed the bridge pins and replaced them with the Bob Collosi bone with ebony dots pins I took from the Taylor. They fit without any sanding and they look pretty good. I have no opinion as to whether they changed the tone. ;)

The more I play it the more awesome it sounds. I love the full, rich bass.

This is the fifth Gibson acoustic I've owned. I had a 1977 Hummingbird, 2006 Songwriter, 2010 J200 Standard, 2012 SJ200 Golden Age and now this 2017 Hummingbird 12.

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Posted 07 November 2018 - 07:32 PM

Congrats !!!
Can't wait to hear a new tune from you with this new toy.
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Posted 07 November 2018 - 07:49 PM

Congratulations! Looking forward to hearing it in future drathbun productions.
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Posted 08 November 2018 - 02:27 PM

 drathbun, on 07 November 2018 - 05:02 PM, said:

The Hummingbird is MINE! [biggrin] [biggrin] [biggrin]

I made the deal today and traded in my Taylor. Before I took the Taylor into the shop, I took out the Collosi bone saddle and custom bone/ebony dot bridge pins and replaced the saddle with the stock Taylor one and the pins with plastic.

I'm going to put the Collosi pins into the Hummingbird and see if they fit. If they don't, I'll be sanding a lot of little pins for a few days.

I will also be drilling the heel to put in a strap button.


Wonderful news!! Iíve just spent an hour playing mine and remembered I needed to check in on the thread and see what has transpired. Iím SO glad you went for the Bird. I know youíre a seasoned player with a fine ear and Iím absolutely 200% sure the Bird will give you immense joy. Mine often makes me chuckle at first strum as I remember just how brilliant it is. I spent many years playing lesser 12s (my first steel strung acoustic was a Kimbara 12, many years ago, and Iíve usually kept one around-Takamines, an old Yamaha, a Vintage, a Ď70s Hohner Leyanda) but the Bird was a gigantic step up for me, and really is the only 12 string Iíll ever need.

The guitar itself got an encore at a tour date a couple of months back, a guy at the front started a chant of ďMORE TWELVE STRING!Ē Which soon spread through the crowd...I couldnít stop laughing, it was so surreal. I promised them that next time iíll just send the guitar to do the gig and they could set it on a stand and look at it all night!
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Posted 08 November 2018 - 05:55 PM

View PostJinder, on 08 November 2018 - 02:27 PM, said:

Wonderful news!! Iíve just spent an hour playing mine and remembered I needed to check in on the thread and see what has transpired. Iím SO glad you went for the Bird. I know youíre a seasoned player with a fine ear and Iím absolutely 200% sure the Bird will give you immense joy. Mine often makes me chuckle at first strum as I remember just how brilliant it is. I spent many years playing lesser 12s (my first steel strung acoustic was a Kimbara 12, many years ago, and Iíve usually kept one around-Takamines, an old Yamaha, a Vintage, a Ď70s Hohner Leyanda) but the Bird was a gigantic step up for me, and really is the only 12 string Iíll ever need.

The guitar itself got an encore at a tour date a couple of months back, a guy at the front started a chant of ďMORE TWELVE STRING!Ē Which soon spread through the crowd...I couldnít stop laughing, it was so surreal. I promised them that next time iíll just send the guitar to do the gig and they could set it on a stand and look at it all night!


What a terrific story Jinder! Of course, the Hummingbird would never sound as wonderful without it being in your hands. We all know a great guitarist can make any guitar sound wonderful.
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Posted 08 November 2018 - 08:07 PM

drathbun, congrats on a rockin' 12 Hummingbird. You won't be able to stop playing it ! Any idea how many of that model were produced ? I have one and it has the mellowist looking burst of any Hummingbird I ever saw. Very, very loud too... enjoy !
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Posted 09 November 2018 - 12:44 AM

View Postfreebyrd, on 08 November 2018 - 08:07 PM, said:

drathbun, congrats on a rockin' 12 Hummingbird. You won't be able to stop playing it ! Any idea how many of that model were produced ? I have one and it has the mellowist looking burst of any Hummingbird I ever saw. Very, very loud too... enjoy !


Thanks, freebyrd. I'm totally stoked. I have no idea how many were produced in 2017. My guess: a hundred... a hundred and fifty?

It isn't just the loudness of this guitar (it is loud), but it is the resonance. It vibrates my chest. At my age, that qualifies as a sex toy!
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Posted 09 November 2018 - 10:52 AM

Great!! looks stunning, i liked how both sound really but the bird looks better!

One question, im not very familiarized with 12 strings i recently got a 70s Japanese Alvarez i got for $300 sounds good but has a huge neck, are all the 12 strings like this? i was thinking that maybe they need bigger necks because of the extra tension due to having more strings, but i really dont know
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Posted 09 November 2018 - 11:50 AM

"beauty way to go eh!!!"
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Posted 09 November 2018 - 03:34 PM

View PostFemmeParallell, on 09 November 2018 - 10:52 AM, said:

Great!! looks stunning, i liked how both sound really but the bird looks better!

One question, im not very familiarized with 12 strings i recently got a 70s Japanese Alvarez i got for $300 sounds good but has a huge neck, are all the 12 strings like this? i was thinking that maybe they need bigger necks because of the extra tension due to having more strings, but i really dont know


A lot of 12 strings have enormous necks. Of course, you need a wider neck for string spacing for the six extra strings. Although, that has never bothered Rickenbacker! The heavier neck will also compensate for the extra tension of the 12 strings.

12 strings are notorious for needing neck resets earlier in their lifespans than six strings. Also, the extra bracing needed has caused many makers, Gibson included, to either over or underbrace the tops. There has been some discussion here about the successes and failures of early Gibson 12 strings like the B25 with and without tailpieces.

The nut width on the Hummingbird is 1.875" which isn't that much larger than my SJ200 at 1.725".

I HAVE noticed the difference in scale length compared with the Taylor. The Hummingbird is 24.75" where the Taylor was 25.5". The Bird plays a bit smoother, but I've noticed some chord shapes are a little more cramped to the point I was confused as to why I wasn't fretting them properly (ie E7 in first position).
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Posted 12 November 2018 - 04:41 PM

View Postdrathbun, on 09 November 2018 - 03:34 PM, said:

A lot of 12 strings have enormous necks. Of course, you need a wider neck for string spacing for the six extra strings. Although, that has never bothered Rickenbacker! The heavier neck will also compensate for the extra tension of the 12 strings.

12 strings are notorious for needing neck resets earlier in their lifespans than six strings. Also, the extra bracing needed has caused many makers, Gibson included, to either over or underbrace the tops. There has been some discussion here about the successes and failures of early Gibson 12 strings like the B25 with and without tailpieces.

The nut width on the Hummingbird is 1.875" which isn't that much larger than my SJ200 at 1.725".

I HAVE noticed the difference in scale length compared with the Taylor. The Hummingbird is 24.75" where the Taylor was 25.5". The Bird plays a bit smoother, but I've noticed some chord shapes are a little more cramped to the point I was confused as to why I wasn't fretting them properly (ie E7 in first position).




I see, and it makes sense but i didnt know for sure, thank you for the input
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