kelly campbell Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 If they put all the people in that everyone agrees should be in, it would have been over ten, 12 years ago. It cost way too much money to not have some way to just keep on keepin on. So they pick a bunch, put in a few that should be, the rest are filler, have a party, a teevee show, make a video of the pathetic "jam" at the end, and start it all over again for next year. It's a pretty good job running that thing, I don't understand how people don't understand that that's all they're doing, keeping their jobs! rct I agree that part of the problem is that they go way overboard trying to make money off the whole process with the dvd's of the party etc..but I am also one who believes that they should be more selective and limit the number that go in in any given year...I don't think they should have large classes of induction..problem is though I do not think the money is there to sustain the whole thing if they do not do something else to subsidise the museum itself....maybe they could but they won't try anything lese since they are more interested in making it a cash cow for themselves... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 We stopped in CleveTown in 2003 for a couple days. I was stoked to see it. We were finishing up a massive 6 week drive around the western national parks, our first time doing that, and we threw in a couple days to see the Rock Hall. It should be called The Costume Hall of Fame. Seriously. We didn't quite know what to expect, couple hot guitars was nice, some films and displays of things, history, etc. But mostly just suits that Daltrey wore once, or 7 Madonna outfits or a couple Brittney Spears suits. We thought it was very, very weird. Left there with no souvenirs, and I stopped donating money to the cause after that. rct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly campbell Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 I agree there were a lot of things that were not so interesting but there was some things was ok. not enough to make me really feel sad about going back..but I may some time if Yes does get in..I have never donated other than the admission fee's the two different times I went. I do admit that it is all a matter of opinion yet there are some parameters that help set some standards like length of time since first album. But The people on the voting panel are supposed to be able to recognize talent and look at sales figures and to some extent longevity should play a role. but some times they seem to just ignore all of it...baffling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketman Posted October 23, 2014 Author Share Posted October 23, 2014 Here's the process: "The Foundation's nominating committee selects nominees each year in the Performer category. Ballots are then sent to an international voting body of more than 600 artists, historians and members of the music industry. Those performers who receive the highest number of votes are inducted. The Foundation generally inducts five to seven performers each year. Beginning in 2012, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame opened Nominee voting to fans around the world. The Top Five Nominees as voted by the fans count for one ballot entry, which is weighted the same as individual ballot entries submitted by members of the international voting body." 600 of them is a lot. The law of large numbers should remove any biases, so I'm ok with how they are picked. Of course, the nominating committee is much smaller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly campbell Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Here's the process: "The Foundation's nominating committee selects nominees each year in the Performer category. Ballots are then sent to an international voting body of more than 600 artists, historians and members of the music industry. Those performers who receive the highest number of votes are inducted. The Foundation generally inducts five to seven performers each year. Beginning in 2012, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame opened Nominee voting to fans around the world. The Top Five Nominees as voted by the fans count for one ballot entry, which is weighted the same as individual ballot entries submitted by members of the international voting body." 600 of them is a lot. The law of large numbers should remove any biases, so I'm ok with how they are picked. Of course, the nominating committee is much smaller. That is correct but I have also read through the names and I think a lot of them have no idea of some of the older bands impact on the times they just hear a sampling of them and decide they do not like it....they should probably do something along the lines of the Baseball hof and form a veterans committee of members themselves to vote in people with out having to go through the nomination and balloting process...just my opinion...I just think there are some injustices and they seem to all be older groups and some of the newer bands that get in amaze me but hey I am old. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryUK Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Why haven't Journey ever been put in? Such a successful band and some great classic songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly campbell Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Don't Stop Believing and it will happen. But most likely not. I grew up in the SF Bay area and heard them on the radio all the time. The first three albums before they got Steve Perry were damn good rock albums. Next is my fav. When Escape made them uber stars I had enough and you could not Escape an Escape song on the radio or MTV. Good example of another band that if you look at some who are in you start to wonder why they are not, yeah they changed directions but still are more rock than some that did get in..Styx is another I would say are like Journey in that respect but deserve to be there..I mean both still remained more rock oriented than say ABBA... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookieman15061 Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 The Cars and Chicago with Terry Kath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly campbell Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 The Cars and Chicago with Terry Kath. The fact that Chicago is not in is unbelievable..period Joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L8_4thesh0w Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 The Cars and Chicago with Terry Kath. The fact that Chicago is not in is unbelievable..period Joke I, II, III & IV Live At Carnegie Hall will always be in my top 5 fave albums(sets)! Σß Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly campbell Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Great band with a ton of sales and really made the horns popular in Rock and Roll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookieman15061 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I, II, III & IV Live At Carnegie Hall will always be in my top 5 fave albums(sets)! Σß Those early albums, with fantastic vocals from the 3 leads and incredible musicianship from every member, should have got them in years ago. EWF is in and that's fine but Chicago's combination of rock and jazz influenced early work was just as essential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitar God Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 So glad that Stevie Ray is on the nomination list! He's the one I'm rooting for to get in the most and voted for him a couple times already! He's one of my biggest and main influences, so him being on the list makes my day and I hope he gets in! When I did the voting thing for him, he was in 2nd place of the votes with Nine Inch Nails being in 1st for the votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketman Posted October 26, 2014 Author Share Posted October 26, 2014 So glad that Stevie Ray is on the nomination list! He's the one I'm rooting for to get in the most and voted for him a couple times already! He's one of my biggest and main influences, so him being on the list makes my day and I hope he gets in! When I did the voting thing for him, he was in 2nd place of the votes with Nine Inch Nails being in 1st for the votes. Looks like they added Double Trouble too, which is absolutely the right thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stein Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 The problem with the Rock and Roll "Hall of Fame" is in the name only. If they had called it the POP hall of fame or the MUSIC hall of fame, that would be more accurate. ROCK AND ROLL is a FORM of music. A type. Not all music is Rock and Roll. There is lots of great music that isn't. When you call something "Rock and Roll", and it isn't, there is no credibility. When you attempt to redefine the term, clearly you diminish it. Rock and Roll means something to those who like it and KNOW what it is. The so-called "Rock and Roll Hall of Fame" does not qualify as Rock and Roll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karloff Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Is Mountain in yet ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly campbell Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 So Deep Purple didnt make it in yet? Thats sad. I agree but by golly abba and run dmc are good enough along with a few other jokes...just pathetic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 So Deep Purple didnt make it in yet? Thats sad. So much for credibility..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitar God Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Looks like they added Double Trouble too, which is absolutely the right thing to do. Oh, yeah, it is for sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly campbell Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 I think it has started not sure the only time I have voted was last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly campbell Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 I voted for KISS Deep Purple and I believe Yes was on there last year right? Seems like I remember voting for them too? You know actual classic rock artist that belong in there. Exactly I think Last years nominee's were a better class than this year I would have liked to seen Yes this year I think they would have fared a little better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the dog Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Grand Funk Railroad should be in.....heck there an American Band...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the dog Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 What about Blink 182 the same band, nominate them as well. Absolutely......Lets get them in there to.....might as well put Britney Spears in while were at it...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Absolutely......Lets get them in there to.....might as well put Britney Spears in while were at it...... In 2003 they probably had 6 or so Spears costumes on mannequins. rct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 You think it could be all about who which record company will pay the light bill for them? Yes. rct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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