darling67 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 My theory: Gibson themselves can get away with a "coming soon", whereas dealerships, as soon as they get the specs, want to be the first to publish them, because they want to be the first to get orders. G-Force again... will stores have to sell them for cheap just like last year? If they bought the compaany making them, Gibson obviously will not just give up on them. Rock and a hard place. You're probably right. Makes sense on the retail level. But you'd still think they'd be the first to present their products to the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4Hayden Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 If I was wet behind the ears and 13 yrs old with snot running out my nose , maybe . Hey look at my guitar don't lesson to the music. NOPE NADA pass on 15 - 17 models 4H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1all's Pub Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Hmmm... not sure I'm really feeling it this year (2017)... at least not so far. Oh, there are a few bright points, but most of models I am most interested in aren't working for me. 2016 was a palette of color choices for the LPs... not so much in 2017 it appears (at least not so far). Pretty limited in terms of traditional colors. If you're into wild colors though this might be your year. The LP Classic in Ocean Green Burst... that, though, I could own. I'd prefer it with a 50s neck, but I could probably live with it for that color. Very sharp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darling67 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 This is lovely: I also like this Custom Special. It's kind of Norlinesque: Bence. This guitar is growing on me, as well. Love the black w/tortoise pick guard. I just wish Gibson would bind all their necks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted September 12, 2016 Author Share Posted September 12, 2016 This guitar is growing on me, as well. Love the black w/tortoise pick guard. I just wish Gibson would bind all their necks! Did you see theres a flat top version too with uncovered pups.. Called the M2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darling67 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Did you see theres a flat top version too with uncovered pups.. Called the M2 I've found that I prefer covered pickups. But I dig the additional color schemes... the white with gray pearl pick guard is sharp! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub-T-123 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Did you see theres a flat top version too with uncovered pups.. Called the M2 I'm kinda liking the yellow one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted September 12, 2016 Author Share Posted September 12, 2016 I'm kinda liking the yellow one Yellow... Looks more like a light lime green to me??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted September 12, 2016 Author Share Posted September 12, 2016 I'm kinda liking the yellow one Actually yes.. its called Citron Green FINISHES: Bright Cherry, Ebony, Phantom Grey, Citron Green, Teal, Strawberry Milk http://www.pmtonline.co.uk/blog/2016/09/07/gibson-2017-guitars-now-for-sale/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capmaster Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 I bet the mounting of the pickguard is as insufficient to withstand the force of unplugging as on my 2013 EB basses. <_< After I had broken one, Gibson supplied a spare pickguard without charge, and I added two more screws. Nevertheless it bends up alarmingly while unplugging, and I always hold it down to avoid damage. :unsure: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub-T-123 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 I bet the mounting of the pickguard is as insufficient to withstand the force of unplugging as on my 2013 EB basses. <_< After I had broken one, Gibson supplied a spare pickguard without charge, and I added two more screws. Nevertheless it bends up alarmingly while unplugging, and I always hold it down to avoid damage. :unsure: Those Neutrik and Switchcraft open frame stereo jacks really hold on to the plug tightly. If you bend the prongs out slightly they will realease the plug with less tension Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub-T-123 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Actually yes.. its called Citron Green FINISHES: Bright Cherry, Ebony, Phantom Grey, Citron Green, Teal, Strawberry Milk http://www.pmtonline.co.uk/blog/2016/09/07/gibson-2017-guitars-now-for-sale/ It's pretty obnoxious whatever you wanna call it. Pretty cool, but I still don't think I'm gonna bust out the wallet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capmaster Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Those Neutrik and Switchcraft open frame stereo jacks really hold on to the plug tightly. If you bend the prongs out slightly they will realease the plug with less tension I prefer jacks with a strong grip and don't want to lower their tension. They feel safer to me than tube jacks and multi-contact plastic jacks including switches that I can't avoid on some guitars, i particular hybrids with piezos. The tube socket of my 1986 Ibanez RG needed to be replaced twice up to now, and all the others are original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darling67 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 It's pretty obnoxious whatever you wanna call it. Pretty cool, but I still don't think I'm gonna bust out the wallet Yeah… the ebony, white and "teal" are the only finishes I'd consider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokeyGhost Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 The appearance really shouldn't matter but, frankly, they just don't 'grab' me. Almost feel they have run out of ideas so we'll produce them with pretty colours [English spullin, Sir Spellcheck. So there ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 I've been checking them all out on the net lately and the differences. I still prefer the older Flame Tops much better and Bursts. Always wanted to get a fancy Quilt top too. But I do like that Green for some reason and I've always hated green guitars. The 3 top choices for me If, I was going to get one would be; .1 Les Paul Standard. .2 Les Paul Traditional, .3 Les Paul Classic. My taste is not interested in Flying V's or Firebirds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btoth76 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Some extra info here: http://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/news/article.asp?id=132877 Bence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badbluesplayer Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 They just have the computer randomly pick the combinations of features for various guitar models. Like how Bob Dylan thinks up the lyrics for his tunes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1all's Pub Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Everything we keep seeing posted at various retailers websites seems to confirm that 2017 will be a year of limited color options... at least in the regular USA line (e.g., Traditionals, Standards, Studios, etc). Only 3 on the Trad and Studio and 4 on the Standard in 2017??? In 2016 there were 6 on the Trad, 9 on the Studio, and 11 on the Standard! I wonder why they are going with such limited color palette this year? Maybe because they are going so crazy with the colors on the new "cheap" lines (M2 and Custom Studio)??? IDK, seems very strange. I've been looking at getting a Trad in Iced Tea for a while now and was waiting to see what the 2017s would offer. No such color this year apparently. Guess I'll go for another 2016 Trad instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darling67 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Everything we keep seeing posted at various retailers websites seems to confirm that 2017 will be a year of limited color options... at least in the regular USA line (e.g., Traditionals, Standards, Studios, etc). Only 3 on the Trad and Studio and 4 on the Standard in 2017??? In 2016 there were 6 on the Trad, 9 on the Studio, and 11 on the Standard! I wonder why they are going with such limited color palette this year? Maybe because they are going so crazy with the colors on the new "cheap" lines (M2 and Custom Studio)??? IDK, seems very strange. I've been looking at getting a Trad in Iced Tea for a while now and was waiting to see what the 2017s would offer. No such color this year apparently. Guess I'll go for another 2016 Trad instead. That honey burst Trad is quite nice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darling67 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 The appearance really shouldn't matter but, frankly, they just don't 'grab' me. Almost feel they have run out of ideas so we'll produce them with pretty colours [English spullin, Sir Spellcheck. So there ) When you've already produced the best guitar designs of all-time, I'd imagine it must be hard to keep things "fresh". It's a tall order to improve upon perfection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merciful-evans Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 When you've already produced the best guitar designs of all-time, I'd imagine it must be hard to keep things "fresh". It's a tall order to improve upon perfection. Perfection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btoth76 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 I think Gibson did a great job for 2017. All the things we were complaining about in 2015, were solved in a satisfying way. They given us the choice of the high-performance and traditional models, instead of the forcing high tech features on us. The ugly switch in place of the tone pot is gone. Now, all these sound options are triggered by push-pull pots. No weight relief on the Traditional Les Paul makes it an affordable variant of a Reissue. Attractive new finishes: I love the Antique Burst Traditional. Also, the Black Cherry Burst on Studios is very, very nice! The V, and the Explorer is back. An affordable Firebird Studio is available too. Some nice, low-cost models with Norlin-era styling are offered too. In my opinion, Gibson over-complicated the palette of entry-level models a bit, with too many Les Paul Studio-like models. But, more options are still better than less. Bence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted September 14, 2016 Author Share Posted September 14, 2016 Yeah I agree.. I don't have an issue with what happened in 2016 or the new ones.. I really don't like the over chromy look of the new HPs but then I don't really care cos I wont be buying one anyway... Will it put other people off... Probably but then im sure many will like them too... And as long as theres a T line and choice then im cool with it... The only year I actually had a personal issue with was the 2015s (not that its any business of mine what they do, that's up to them).. But the total sweeping changes and no choice, and I just think it was a silly thing for them to do.... I did find the 2017 line up all a bit underwhelming but then what more can they really do now? And I think that's what Gibson suffer from... They are damned if they do and damned if they don't... they try new things and people moan that's not a real Les Paul, they make traditional ones and people moan Gibson just keep doing the same thing... 2017 lets say they have gone a bit down the middle.. and people will still moan.... lol bloody internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btoth76 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Yeah I agree.. I don't have an issue with what happened in 2016 or the new ones.. I really don't like the over chromy look of the new HPs but then I don't really care cos I wont be buying one anyway... Will it put other people off... Probably but then im sure many will like them too... Me neither, but there are alternatives to my liking. I appreciate that. They are damned if they do and damned if they don't... they try new things and people moan that's not a real Les Paul, they make traditional ones and people moan Gibson just keep doing the same thing... 2017 lets say they have gone a bit down the middle.. and people will still moan.... lol bloody internet Yes, I understand that. That's a tough thing to overcome. Bence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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