kidblast Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 the auction indeed is still active. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler A Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 I reported this to Ebay and to Gibson. Â Dang, Imostly feel bad for the bidders, but that is a bad fake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damnyankee Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 It's nice to see knowledgable people. I hope to learn from you all. Another thing to look at is the neck binding, it's molded from a solid piece on a real Montana made J200. This one looks like binding overlapped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 I got an email this morning from ebay, asking me how the support experience with them went for me... Â !!LOL!! Â of course, I had to fill it out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponty Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Ebay used to have a set up where by you could actually mail the bidders. This no longer is the case, so they cannot be warned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Ebay used to have a set up where by you could actually mail the bidders. This no longer is the case, so they cannot be warned. Â I had thought so, but, yea,, no way to do it now it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 I saw a piece on e-commerce yesterday that stated that up to 30% of the transactions on ebay, Amazon, and a couple of other platforms I was not familiar with involve counterfeit goods. Â It is clear that the operators of those platforms have zero incentive to police this, since it would obviously result in a significant reduction in profitability. Â It's a pretty sad commentary on the times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 no substitute for knowing what the f--- you're bidding on. Â Ignorance is bliss. Â We did try. I'm over it. Â Bids are @ $1,400 + now, and did you notice this dork has $150 listed for shipping? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 about 1 hour left. Â Current bid $1,950.00... Â oh the humanity! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Paul Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 about 1 hour left.  Current bid $1,950.00...  oh the humanity!  Apparently this seller DID get the message / messages. I hadn't even asked him for the serial number yet  Hello, I just wanted to let you know that this is a replica j 200. That was why I had it listed for a grand. I didn't expect that it would sell for so much. I know that authentic J 200s sell for thousands. You don't have to make the payment and I completely understand. Sorry for any confusion..I will relist the guitar and be sure to make clear it's a copy. Thanks for your understanding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 he didn't relist or amend anything  Item specifics Condition: New: A brand-new, unused, unopened, undamaged item in its original packaging (where packaging is ... Read more about the condition Brand: Gibson Model: J 200   Winning bid $2,650.00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 he didn't relist or amend anything  Item specifics Condition: New: A brand-new, unused, unopened, undamaged item in its original packaging (where packaging is ... Read more about the condition Brand: Gibson Model: J 200   Winning bid $2,650.00  Someone will be (or should be) seriously upset when they realize what they have bought. My guess it will ultimately get returned to the seller, and may show up again in some way, perhaps advertised as a "replica".  The serial number, by the way, was clearly visible in the photos, and was in a format never used by any Gibson division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Paul Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Someone will be (or should be) seriously upset when they realize what they have bought. My guess it will ultimately get returned to the seller, and may show up again in some way, perhaps advertised as a "replica". Â The serial number, by the way, was clearly visible in the photos, and was in a format never used by any Gibson division. Â Sorry for the apparent confusion. I "won" the auction. The seller sent me the note I quoted immediately after the auction was over, before I even got the wheels rolling on the adventure that was to happen next. Step 1 would have been to request the serial. Step 2 was to refuse to pay because it was falsely represented in the listing. Â I was one of the few that contacted ebay during the auction. I'm guessing they may have contacted the seller and advised caution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Sorry for the apparent confusion. I "won" the auction. The seller sent me the note I quoted immediately after the auction was over, before I even got the wheels rolling on the adventure that was to happen next. Step 1 would have been to request the serial. Step 2 was to refuse to pay because it was falsely represented in the listing. Â I was one of the few that contacted ebay during the auction. I'm guessing they may have contacted the seller and advised caution. Â I thought that might be the case, but wasn't certain. Â I contacted ebay during the sale, and reported it as a sale of counterfeit goods. I got an acknowledgement of my contact, but that was it. No response on the substance. Â So where do you stand now in this process? It seems like you've undertaken a certain amount of risk here, so I assume you have a plan. Â Did you bid multiple times, or go in and snipe at the last minute to make sure you would win? If you bid multiple times, you may inadvertently have encouraged others to believe the guitar was real, and to continue bidding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffytune Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 I seen this one, tho the seller has clearly stated that it is made in China and he does not show the headstock saying "Gibson" but he is using Gibson's model numbers and names. Â But, then again it's 381 bucks with free shipping, so most buyers should know it's not a Gibson. Â E-bay sale J200 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 I seen this one, tho the seller has clearly stated that it is made in China and he does not show the headstock saying "Gibson" but he is using Gibson's model numbers and names. Â But, then again it's 381 bucks with free shipping, so most buyers should know it's not a Gibson. Â E-bay sale J200 Â Â Â not the same seller apparently.. and CUSTOM J200 "Humingbird"? OOOOhhhkay... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 (edited) Sorry for the apparent confusion. I "won" the auction. The seller sent me the note I quoted immediately after the auction was over, before I even got the wheels rolling on the adventure that was to happen next. Step 1 would have been to request the serial. Step 2 was to refuse to pay because it was falsely represented in the listing.  I was one of the few that contacted ebay during the auction. I'm guessing they may have contacted the seller and advised caution.  I was probably the first to report this, and there was literally NO response from eBay to me at all.  Anyway, Thanks for clearing that up Paul, you are probably right, eBay must have reached out to the guy. Good to know that someone didn't get boned on this one  btw nice knowing that you were on this guys heels... good on ya! Edited March 1, 2018 by kidblast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConcernedPicker Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 On 2/25/2018 at 10:05 AM, j45nick said:   Before you look at any characteristics of the guitar, the serial number is 2016015421. Uh....  At least they didn't steal a valid Gibson serial number.  Sooo, I randomly stumbled across this thread when researching this post on FB Marketplace for a Gibson Hummingbird with this same serial number.  Several cursory serial number searches indicate it’s an invalid serial.  The old links and images are defunct from this thread, but is this the same guitar about to take somebody else for a ride?  https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/602764493996677/   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobouz Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 4 hours ago, ConcernedPicker said: The old links and images are defunct from this thread, but is this the same guitar about to take somebody else for a ride?https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/602764493996677/ Â Yes indeed, it remains as fake as the last time it was discussed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConcernedPicker Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 10 hours ago, bobouz said:  Yes indeed, it remains as fake as the last time it was discussed. Well that sucks.  Reported to Facebook .. and Gibson .. again  😔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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