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Murph

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I'm an American. I had a 4100 (JCM900) Marshall 1/2 stack, one of the early ones with EL34's, and a 1960A for about 10 years as my main amp. In America they run at 110/120 volts. I grew up with Fender Twins, Deluxe, Super Reverbs, Champs, and am now using a Mesa Blue Angel as my main gigging amp.

 

I just wondered, how many of you have heard, in real life, or if there is any (and there must be) tonal differences in the SAME amps, with different voltage.

 

You know?

 

Does a Fender Twin sound different designed for your power?

 

And how?

 

Best of luck.

 

Murph.

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What's a kipper?

 

Murph.

 

Murph don't go calling the royal family a bunch of sissies. That would be to much cliche' American, even for you.

 

BTW you said when you gig in an earlier post on this thread. Where abouts? Chicago isn't that far from me and as long as it isn't country or rap I might bring the wife up for a weekend. There are some great blues bars in Chicago, as you know.

 

To those who don't know, IMHO, the blues joints in Chicago blow away the Nashville or New Orleans scene. Note I said blues..... before you start yelling at me...if I had said jazz I would have said New Orleans, but that ain't my scene.

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it's possible for it to sound different but not likely. the truth is that while the voltages coming from the wall may vary, it is compensated for inside the amp. after you go through the power transformer and the rest of the power supply, the voltages have all been adjusted to the same value no matter which place your amp was designed for. the tubes get the same voltages, etc. so, it really shouldn't sound different.

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When Marshall amps started flooding into the US music stores in the early seventies, nobody could figure out why they didn't sound like the ones our British guitar heros were using. A few years later it was discovered that the American versions were fitted with different power tubes. The American distributor got the brilliant idea to install 6L6 power tubes in them since it was the US "equivilent" of the British EL34. I think they got this all worked out after sales in the US tanked.

 

I think most of Europe is on 50 Hz power, instead of 60 Hz. I wonder what difference this might make in sound and performance.

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I'm by no means an expert. But I'm very curious about amps, tone and all that crap and I have read in several serious publishings that the output DOES change the tone. It's a consense that volts affect tone.

 

Just think of the Variac device and how it can affect the tone of a normal Marshall SLP to the point of Eddie VH crappy brown sound.

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That's kind of my thoughts. Hell, people (me too) spend hours swapping tubes for a slight nuance, you know?

 

You would think a TOTAL power difference would make a HUGE difference in the same amp.

 

I prefer a non master volume amp, so the breakup has to come from the tubes, with a slight bump from the old green tubescreamer.

 

Anyhow, thanks for the input.

 

(sorry)

 

Murph.

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