gibsonrene Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 I wonder if it is real, and what should I look for when buying it. Also how much is it worth? https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ypf2k3zvi3zp265/AAC9TYNM2UvxoTAq2Pe5Wu_Da?dl=0 I am afraid it could be fake or a chibson....it was bought in 2000s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdgm Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Looks real from what I can see in the pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Looks legit. What is up with the see though control cavity cover? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparquelito Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 I'm jaded, so my opinion is of little value. If it seems too good to be true, it probably isn't. And since there has been an EXPLOSION of fake Gibson Les Pauls all across the internet, I don't trust anything found online anymore. My goal now is to never, ever buy another guitar that I don't hold, play, inspect, and fondle, in-person first. Ever again. Unless it comes from Sweetwater. Then I might trust it. 😑 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mihcmac Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 (edited) Well I'm a little suspicious, I never saw a maple top standard with the back and neck painted before and the Les Paul logo seems to be too far away from the Gibson logo. Also the serial number is hard to read (like it may have been painted over). But other than that it looks like it could be nice guitar. notice the position of the LP badge.. Edited February 23, 2021 by mihcmac 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub-T-123 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Micmac you have a photo of a reissue Les Paul there which has a different headstock altogether actually. The guitar looks legit in the headstock pic but I didn’t open the Dropbox link 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mihcmac Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 (edited) I ain't no expert on this I just noticed irregularities.. Also getting the serial number would help.. Ok here's one that looks more like it.. Edited February 23, 2021 by mihcmac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibsonrene Posted February 23, 2021 Author Share Posted February 23, 2021 wow now I am scared..... i am no expert so I dont know how to spot a fake gibson, but they have a bill apparently here it is so check it out please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibsonrene Posted February 23, 2021 Author Share Posted February 23, 2021 4 hours ago, mihcmac said: Well I'm a little suspicious, I never saw a maple top standard with the back and neck painted before and the Les Paul logo seems to be too far away from the Gibson logo. Also the serial number is hard to read (like it may have been painted over). But other than that it looks like it could be nice guitar. notice the position of the LP badge.. so you think it was painted over? because the beck broke or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 here's how to end the debate.. Take off the truss rod cover and check to see what you'd used to adjust the truss rod. The WRONG answer is an Allen Wrench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub-T-123 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 7 hours ago, gibsonrene said: wow now I am scared..... i am no expert so I dont know how to spot a fake gibson, but they have a bill apparently here it is so check it out please Michmac posted the wrong pictures to compare he’s trippin out. Don’t worry 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibsonrene Posted February 23, 2021 Author Share Posted February 23, 2021 29 minutes ago, kidblast said: here's how to end the debate.. Take off the truss rod cover and check to see what you'd used to adjust the truss rod. The WRONG answer is an Allen Wrench. so chibsons have different screws? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub-T-123 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 1 minute ago, gibsonrene said: so chibsons have different screws? Chibsons will usually have 3 mounting screws on the truss rod cover and an Allen key type truss rod nut. a real Gibson will have two screws mounting the truss rod cover and a 5/16” acorn nut on the truss rod. There is no reason at all to suspect your LP is fake based on the pics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 1 hour ago, gibsonrene said: so chibsons have different screws? the important part is just what dub said; the tool used for adjusting the truss rod on a USA made gibson is a 5/16 hex style wrench, a fake will need an Allen wrench. there are other red flags which I don't see yours has, so if you're at all in doubt still, just check what is under that truss rod cover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibsonrene Posted February 23, 2021 Author Share Posted February 23, 2021 36 minutes ago, kidblast said: the important part is just what dub said; the tool used for adjusting the truss rod on a USA made gibson is a 5/16 hex style wrench, a fake will need an Allen wrench. there are other red flags which I don't see yours has, so if you're at all in doubt still, just check what is under that truss rod cover. because chines use metric and americans dont? I would think that if they make a good chibson they would at least use same screws? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 14 minutes ago, gibsonrene said: because chines use metric and americans dont? I would think that if they make a good chibson they would at least use same screws? well, the idea is, let china keep building them as they are, we can spot the counterfeits out in a heart beat with what they do today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 So China does not have the know how and resources to machine a 5/16 acorn nut and the truss rod to accommodate it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibsonrene Posted February 23, 2021 Author Share Posted February 23, 2021 Just now, Sgt. Pepper said: So China does not have the know how and resources to machine a 5/16 acorn nut and the truss rod to accommodate it? i wonder the same....we better shush it here cause if they find it the chibsons will be unrecognizable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Sgt. Pepper said: So China does not have the know how and resources to machine a 5/16 acorn nut and the truss rod to accommodate it? no acorn in china, no crue what acorn nut rook rike, tluss lod with arren lench superior to yankee tluss lod nut.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibsonrene Posted February 23, 2021 Author Share Posted February 23, 2021 Just now, kidblast said: no acorn in china, no crue what acorn nut rook rike, tluss lod with arren lench superior to yankee tluss lod nut.. china qualiti good, you buy i love you long time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 23 minutes ago, gibsonrene said: china qualiti good, you buy i love you long time there ya go!! !LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinch Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 A signature you can actually make out on a pre-pack list must be a first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 59 minutes ago, kidblast said: no acorn in china, no crue what acorn nut rook rike, tluss lod with arren lench superior to yankee tluss lod nut.. Do you help Michael Che write the stuff for SNL Weekend Update? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mihcmac Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 (edited) 16 hours ago, gibsonrene said: wow now I am scared..... i am no expert so I dont know how to spot a fake gibson, but they have a bill apparently here it is so check it out please The serial number checks out and to me the checklist looks authentic. Serial number: 002191417 Production year: January 21, 2009 (Batch:1 Product nr.: 417) (Manufactured in Nashville) The unusual painted back and neck, doesn't mean it wasn't finished that way at the factory. Another check is that Gibsons normally have a 17° break angle on the headstock, where Asian built like Epiphone have a 14° because it is more resilient but not as stiff. Also note that as said before I ain't no expert, I am getting pretty old and reality is slipping away.. Best thing to do if you have any doubts is to call Gibson Customer service. 1-800-4GIBSON (1-800-444-2766) Edited February 23, 2021 by mihcmac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 3 hours ago, Sgt. Pepper said: Do you help Michael Che write the stuff for SNL Weekend Update? hhhooohhhh... may be rooking for new job soon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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