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I was just curious how many people purchase their LPs without seeing the *exact* guitar they're going to get. Since there's quite a bit of variance in grain and quality of maple "flame" on plus top standards/customs/etc do most just take a chance on it and hope for a "good" looking top. I mean, don't get me wrong, all LPs look really good... but some LPs even not out of the custom shop have pretty close to AAA flame maple tops with nice parallel flames from both sides of the top and little to no top defects. I ordered my 08 LP Standard from Wildwood Guitars out of CO(they have pretty good website and friendly staff that answer the phone without an automated phone system!!!). All their guitars are stored in a climate controlled warehouse and are never played after they receive and photograph them. They have an incredible inventory and amazingly detailed, high quality photos of the *exact* guitar you're getting. If it hadn't been for them I wasn't sure what I was going to do since the LPs at the two local GCs looked like they'd been through a war. Anyone else bought from them? What other online purchase experiences have people had?

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Thanks GJ, I agree. I purchased it from them at Wildwood a few weeks ago and it was a great experience. The guitar arrived promptly with email communication throughout the process. I've been jamming on it ever since with no problems -- even better now that I've got the setup dialed in just right.

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see of course there are always exceptions like guitarest not being close to a store to be able to pick up and play some potential gear, but in my case, where there are like 7 stores i can list off the top of my head right now, i'd obviously be a hands on buyer. i wouldnt want to spend $2000+ on something i wouldn't be 100% satisfied with, agreed? i have no problem with buying things off the internet but i want to know what i'm gettin is all i'm sayin.

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phil... couldn't agree more. Buying products online that have pretty consistent construction and little variation from unit to unit like amps, effects units, etc. is much less risky. If I had a great mom-and-pop guitar shop nearby I'd certainly prefer to do it in person.

 

No matter what though, I always at least *play* the guitar before I buy it. For me it was a wounded 08 LP Standard at a local GC that I checked out before making the leap from Wildwood. The poor LP at GC never had a chance... destined now to be played by 14 year-olds murdering Eruption... ugh

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I learned that buying a guitar without seeing/playing it first, was a BAD idea when I purchased a MIM Stratocaster from a instrument supply company (who shall remain nameless), and when I finally got it I found that the fingerboard was severly deffective (some areas of the board were shaved/cut on too much of an angle), so when ever I tried to do a string bend, the string would pop of the fret, long story short, it ended up costing me like $100 to get a new Fender neck. So IMHO, It's a lot smarter/more cost effective to go to a music store, even if you have to take a drive.

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Rather than see it, I'd rather play and hear the guitar first. These are, to me, far far more important matters.

 

I'd never buy a guitar without trying it out but I do realise many people are not in the fortunate position of living close enough to a dealership where trying out stock is possible.

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Rather than see it, I'd rather play and hear the guitar first. These are, to me, far far more important matters.

 

I'd never buy a guitar without trying it out but I do realise many people are not in the fortunate position of living close enough to a dealership where trying out stock is possible.

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yeah, i rolled the dice and went with ams sight unseen when i bought my '94 lp classic premium plus. i took it out of the box and it looked unbelievable. the nicest top and it played so well. it looked more like an art piece or nice furniture than an instrument. fast forward to now and it's totally beat up and covered with stickers. i know it's a waste of a nice top. but it's a total player's guitar.... lol

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I've played more Les Pauls that I didn't like than ones that I did like. For that reason, I like to play them before I pay for them. Now having said that...I've only bought one on-line & unseen and that was my R8. Only reason being it was a Guitar Center sale and the price was $2,500 US at the time when the Canadian dollar was worth more than the US. Even unseen, I couldn't pass it up...and glad I didn't. It can't hold a candle to my other reissues but I love playing it.

 

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Couldn't of said it better myself. It seems people are more concerned with how the guitar looks, rather than how it feels & sounds.

 

By the way...steve167, I think that part about the retailer not playing the guitars is a load of crap. Every place has employees that get their hands on as many guitars as possible and every music store has employees that screen through new stock as it arrives and put the nicer guitars aside. The best ones never see the showroom floor, it's true.

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I love being able to pick up and touch the guitar before I buy. I have seen guitars in shops before and loved them but once I played them they sounded dead. In fact one time I liked the looks of the guitar so much I asked if their on site luthier could take a look at it just to give a quick once over to see what the problem was. He sat with the guitar for about 20 minutes changed the strings checked the action fiddled with it here and there to set the intonation and even he said is sounded lifeless.

 

After that I have always been a little leery of buying on line. I know most good sites have great return policies but it still worries me a little.

 

BUT, if I saw something I loved and the only place I could find it was on line I would probably go for it and be nervous until it showed up and i was able to play it.

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I bought my Custom off ebay, however the seller lived around the corner so I was able to go round and play it first. It also made me say "whats the lowest you will take for it"...I saved £700 off the seller's original price...

 

Maybe I have just been lucky!

 

Buying online is a mine field..... Be careful

 

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I bought my Epiphone mail-order (Musician's Friend), and was pleased to get it in one piece from U.P.S., also got my Telecaster from them, again, wasn't disappointed. As for Guitar Center? I'll buy strings, and SOME accessories. I recently bought a 2008 Squier Standard Stratocaster at Guitar Center because the price was right (199 bucks), and I intend to modify a lot of things on it...ANYWAY, this is what I got:

 

2 broken neck screws

bent neck

worn strings

4 screws for the scratchplate had monstrous burrs

 

I couldn't believe they put a guitar like that out for sale, even though I was able to resolve all issues, I shouldn't have to. And granted, it's a 200 dollar guitar, it really isn't an excuse to put something like that on the floor. And you should have seen what they offered me because I didn't want the black one, which I eventually settled on, I'm not even gonna get into that. On the other hand, I did buy my Goldtop Classic at the same store, and all that one needed was a good cleaning, and strings.

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For years I said I would never buy a guitar without playing it first. But I did some research and played a few similar LP's at GC then went on line and bought my LP (see avatar) from First Quality Music. The sales rep e-mailed me about 16 pictures of the guitar I purchased and I saved the sales tax. No shipping costs either. The money saved was worth it to me. Gave it a good set-up and it's the best guitar I've ever owned.

 

I guess since I saw pictures, it was not totally sight unseen, but close.

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I buy most of my guitars online.

 

I generally avoid buying guitars from Guitar Center, period, though my exception to that rule came in January, when I picked up a clearanced Variax Acoustic 700 there simply because it was marked down from $1200 to $399 ($1600 MSRP). Typical of Guitar Center, it took them 2 1/2 hours to find the gig bag and associated bits and pieces and then forced me to buy a bag of bridge pins because one was missing from the guitar. It was like watching the Three Stooges make a guitar sale.

 

Even when making a purchase in the GC Platinum Room in March, we ignored the Axcess' on the wall in favor of a sight-unseen Custom Shop version that spent only a few minutes at GC before being re-routed in shipping direct to the house. As it was, the requested Build Sheet never appeared and the invoice/receipt didn't appear for two weeks.

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Of the four Les Pauls I've bought I've only played one before buying. Got my Studio to learn on (from a music store owned by a family friend) and still love it. Then got an Epi Standard over the internet (FANTASTIC set-up and a really good guitar for the price). Next was an Epi Custom also from the internet (beautiful guitar but sound and set-up was average and ended up ebaying it - sold for more than I paid for it). Last was my Standard 60's neck which I bought from a shop five minutes walk from my house (set-up average, sounds absolutely amazing), tried it against two 50's necks and my Studio. What I'm saying is I've got no problem buying guitars on the internet but when it gets to serious money there's no way I'd part with Gibson-sized cash without playing it first.

Just for reference for any Brits reading this, the Epi Standard came from guitarampkeyboard.com (I also bought a Line 6 Variax 300 from them and the set-up was just as great), and the Epi Custom came from coda-music.com.

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My first LP was a faded-DC with P-90s. I played it at Guitar Center after trying out an SG Classic. I didn't like the SG, but I fell in love with the LP. The LP had better action, mainly due to the satin finish on the neck, and it had slightly better sound - a little brighter tone with a dash of hollowness. If that sounds stupid, it probably is, because I haven't yet found a way to describe the tome. I guess I'm the same way with wine. To me it tastes good or bad, forget all that "hint of lime" BS. Anyhow, I played it after playing 3 other guitars and I bought it at a song.

 

My most recent LP was a gift from my wife. She knew I wanted a LP Studio, so she ordered it from Musicians Friend. The guitar I received was even better than what I could have imagined. I had played other Studios, but this one, a maple-topped faded, looked and played better than any of the other lacquer-topped LPs I had played. That said, I agree with another poster that if I was forking out big bucks for a custom shop model, I would definitely want to play it first. Quite frankly, I wonder how many of the custom shop models are even played on a regular basis. I mean, if I bought a $5,000 guitar, I would consider that an investment and encase it in a shadowbox for display.

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