E-minor7 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 He may not play the traditional folky stuff, but it isn't hard to imagine that after hearing these 2 back-to-back. It really shows the different natures, , , and the similarities of the clazzik squares. Enjoy ~ Are you watching EA Prague !? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsongs Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 It would be hard for me to choose.. I like both… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars68 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 Oh man, that sounded good. I hear the Hummingbird as sweeter/warmer, while the Dove is slightly edgier and more cutting. I love both sounds but would take the Bird based on looks alone. I can imagine the Dove as preferred in a busy mix. Lars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 I prefer the shorter scale, so it's easy for me. I do love a Dove, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanvillRob Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 They don't sound THAT much different....but the short scale would do it for me, (I own 3 short-scale Gibsons and 3 long-scale Gibsons)... and that Hummingbird is BEAUTIFUL~! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olie Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 I agree with those who say that the difference is minimal - a bit more treble in the Dove, perhaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
62burst Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 (edited) Very nicely done. It just makes a Hummingbird in maple seem like it would mix the best of the two guitars- the tighter sound of the short scale, the crisp response of the maple. The maple has a compression to its sound- but it makes me wonder if that's why the resonance heard with the Hummingbird @ t = :41 is not there with the Dove @ :58. Or in the picking on One Last Breath, HB, t = 2:35 vs Dove t =2:51. Sensitive mic. . . picked up background people noise elsewhere in the shop, but gave a good sample of the HB and the Dove. Or, maybe this Hummingbird, and this Dove. Edited April 16, 2023 by 62burst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 14 hours ago, 62burst said: Or, maybe this Hummingbird, and this Dove. There ya go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissouriPicker Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Two sweet guitars. The ideal situation is if you own both (hey, I do!)……All joking aside, my Dove is definitely louder than my Hummingbird. But, both are ideal for what I play. It all boils down to what we each like. I’d hate to have to pick one over the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanvillRob Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 22 minutes ago, MissouriPicker said: Two sweet guitars. The ideal situation is if you own both (hey, I do!)……All joking aside, my Dove is definitely louder than my Hummingbird. But, both are ideal for what I play. It all boils down to what we each like. I’d hate to have to pick one over the other. I've kinda settled into a groove as to which guitar I play and when...... I don't have a mahogany 'Bird except the 12-String....but I have 2 maple Doves. I have the J-50 which is mahogany and is a square-shouldered dread....so close! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twang Gang Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Surprised there wasn't a little more difference in how the two sounded. The Dove sounded more muted and compressed to me which is opposite of what I thought they'd be. I don't own a Dove (no longer playing longer scale guitars) but I do own two Hummingbirds - one mahogany and one maple. My maple bird is a little brighter and crisper sounding than the hog yet in the video comparison to me it sounded the opposite. As mentioned it is the difference between these two guitars and not necessarily all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted April 19, 2023 Author Share Posted April 19, 2023 (edited) On 4/16/2023 at 10:04 PM, 62burst said: Very nicely done. It just makes a Hummingbird in maple seem like it would mix the best of the two guitars- the tighter sound of the short scale, the crisp response of the maple. The maple has a compression to its sound- but it makes me wonder if that's why the resonance heard with the Hummingbird @ t = :41 is not there with the Dove @ :58. Or in the picking on One Last Breath, HB, t = 2:35 vs Dove t =2:51. Sensitive mic. . . picked up background people noise elsewhere in the shop, but gave a good sample of the HB and the Dove. Or, maybe this Hummingbird, and this Dove. Very well spotted - and it confuses me a bit, , , because I would have mentioned the bass on 2:02 vs 2:20 as example s of the same, just the other way around. Believe me when I say there is a teasing difference between sound tests and playing the guits live. I know most of you already know. But I have spent the last year recording almost all my guitars side by side and have them placed in an 'archive' in my home-studio-set-up. Tuned half down, capoed here there what have U. . Nothing wrong with the recordings as tests, but the differences are just so otherly compared to what I sense acoustically. Point is that I'm almost certain these 2 squares are further from each other in reality than in this splendid demo. We have talked about deeper projection or a 'roomier' deliverance from the D before. Though it's not über-obvious here, I'm close to 100 that it is the case. Ergo - listen to the nature of projection - rather than the colour of sound here. But yes - similarities/variations between the 2 fliers remain an intriguing mystery. A riddle I personally over approx 6 years managed to solve. Edited April 20, 2023 by E-minor7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuroAussie Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 On 4/16/2023 at 2:50 AM, E-minor7 said: He may not play the traditional folky stuff, but it isn't hard to imagine that after hearing these 2 back-to-back. It really shows the different natures, , , and the similarities of the clazzik squares. Enjoy ~ Are you watching EA Prague !? Yes I am ! I do hear quite a significant difference even they are obvious cousins. When played in person the difference is way more pronounced. As Ive said it before, prefer the look of the Bird, but love the more diirect, focuseed tone of the Dove. Both look great side by side ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted April 19, 2023 Author Share Posted April 19, 2023 B 9 hours ago, EuroAussie said: Yes I am ! I do hear quite a significant difference even they are obvious cousins. When played in person the difference is way more pronounced. As Ive said it before, prefer the look of the Bird, but love the more diirect, focuseed tone of the Dove. Both look great side by side ! Blezz U down there ^ Keep flying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
62burst Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 20 hours ago, E-minor7 said: I would have mentioned the bass on 2:02 vs 2:20 as example s of the the same, just the other way around. A tough section in the demo to close listen to- the palm muting adds yet another variable. But glad of your reminder- some guitars might record better, but sound totally different in person. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted April 20, 2023 Author Share Posted April 20, 2023 On 4/16/2023 at 10:04 PM, 62burst said: It just makes a Hummingbird in maple seem like it would mix the best of the two guitars- the tighter sound of the short scale, the crisp response of the maple. Burst - think I've found the perfectos match for you. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
62burst Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 6 hours ago, E-minor7 said: Burst - think I've found the perfectos match for you. . You may be right. . . nice sounding maple bird, too. ; ). Almost forgot how aging can add that extra something to the recipe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 3 hours ago, 62burst said: aging can add that extra something Sometimes aging addith. Sometimes aging takith away..... 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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