Andy R Posted January 11, 2011 Author Share Posted January 11, 2011 No Takers on my +1 trivia? an I posted a bunch of pics of fret work... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveinspain Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 For intonation...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy R Posted January 11, 2011 Author Share Posted January 11, 2011 For intonation...?  Good guess! I'm sure that it helps minimally but not the right answer    Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShredAstaire Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Fret buzz? Â P.S. Very nice work...looks great man. I'm enjoying this thread!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy R Posted January 11, 2011 Author Share Posted January 11, 2011 Fret buzz? Â P.S. Very nice work...looks great man. I'm enjoying this thread!!! Â Much Closer! but the fret leveling is really about getting rid of the buzz! Keep Trying! Â Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShredAstaire Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 To protect your strings from being weakened by sharp corners? hehehehe dunno how else to say that. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saturn Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Great job on those frets. Thanks for sharing it with us. Â I wish someone like you would have done the fret "fixing" job on my MIM Strat. Â As far as the Trivia question, would it have anything to do with the wound strings getting getting caught on the fret edge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Great thread and great work! Â I will give the first person that can tell me why you need to crown frets other than for aesthetic reasons a +1 ... Â So the sharp fret sides don't 'plane' away your fingertips? I have a 1940's guitar with frets that would shred my 'tips like a bacon-slicer! Â P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy R Posted January 11, 2011 Author Share Posted January 11, 2011 To protect your strings from being weakened by sharp corners? hehehehe dunno how else to say that. :) Â Â Â Not a bad guess but not quite.... Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShredAstaire Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Ok I had my two guesses....:) I'll let someone else learn me!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy R Posted January 11, 2011 Author Share Posted January 11, 2011 Great job on those frets. Thanks for sharing it with us. Â I wish someone like you would have done the fret "fixing" job on my MIM Strat. Â As far as the Trivia question, would it have anything to do with the wound strings getting getting caught on the fret edge? Â Thanks and doing fretwork is a lot of work but it is not hard work. As a guitar player it is a great thing to learn how to do and will save you money and allow you to find guitars that people don't want and get a better price because you know how to fix frets to make them play optimally. Â Concerning the fret edge that is more about rounding the fret edge corners not the fret crown. Good Guess though! Â Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy R Posted January 11, 2011 Author Share Posted January 11, 2011 Great thread and great work! Â Â Â So the sharp fret sides don't 'plane' away your fingertips? I have a 1940's guitar with frets that would shred my 'tips like a bacon-slicer! Â P. Â Wow if the tops of the frets are that sharp you really have problems! Not Quite though! Â Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy R Posted January 11, 2011 Author Share Posted January 11, 2011 Ok I had my two guesses....:) I'll let someone else learn me!! Â Awe! Don't give up. You were very close with your first guess just figure out why it help reduce fret buzz!!! Â Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Wow if the tops of the frets are that sharp you really have problems! Not Quite though! Â To protect the fleshy part of the inside of the fingers and thumb? Â There; that's my second guess...over to someone else! Â P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShredAstaire Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Awe! Don't give up. You were very close with your first guess just figure out why it help reduce fret buzz!!! Â Alright alright... after you file it, its flat you want it to be more round so that the string just barely touches the fret when you press down on the strings...giving a cleaner sound... Â How's that?! LOL!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveinspain Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 So that peanut butter and jelly doesn't get all caked where the fret wire meets the fingerboard... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy R Posted January 11, 2011 Author Share Posted January 11, 2011 Alright alright... after you file it, its flat you want it to be more round so that the string just barely touches the fret when you press down on the strings...giving a cleaner sound... Â How's that?! LOL!! Â Â Â Â Even closer! You almost got it!!! I will post a pic and see if it provides a clue.... I'm close to giving it to you for this one. Actually I will give you the +1 and give someone else a +1 if they have the technical answer to what you just said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy R Posted January 11, 2011 Author Share Posted January 11, 2011 Look at the photos and and consider Shreds Answers. Â Level but not crowned! You could polish and play like this and some people do. Â Â Crowned fret after leveling. Another hint I want that bare metal line to be as thin and centered in the middle of the fret as possible! Actually I need to crown these a little bit more... Â Â Guess again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 With a narrower band the intonation is more 'true' whereas with a wider fret-width the intonation is 'all muddled up' (to use the technical term...)? Â P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy R Posted January 11, 2011 Author Share Posted January 11, 2011 So that peanut butter and jelly doesn't get all caked where the fret wire meets the fingerboard... Â +1 for creativity !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy R Posted January 11, 2011 Author Share Posted January 11, 2011 With a narrower band the intonation is more 'true' whereas with a wider fret-width the intonation is 'all muddled up' (to use the technical term...)? Â P. Â Â I think the intonation might only very, very, slightly effected. Keep Trying! Â Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryUK Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Similar to Shred. It's to do with 'resistance' isn't it? Less contact with the string makes them bend easier. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy R Posted January 11, 2011 Author Share Posted January 11, 2011 Similar to Shred. It's to do with 'resistance' isn't it? Less contact with the string makes them bend easier. ? Â Â Very close and yes bending is made easier! Â Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy R Posted January 11, 2011 Author Share Posted January 11, 2011 Answer!!! Â I went ahead and gave Shred the +1 as he was closest. Â The answer is..... Â Â So the string has a single point of contact with the fret. When the fret is flat the string has 3 potential points of contacts. Each edge and the flat surface in the middle.... which can cause buzz, reduce sustain because the string is resting on a flat surface and make bending a less fluid feeling. I suppose it could have a minor impact on intonation as it could slightly alter where the string is making contact with the fret. Â Â So there you Go!!! Â Â Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShredAstaire Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Thanks Andy!! This was a cool thread and i learned some valuable info!! I appreciate you taking the time to document your work and explain it in this thread. Very very cool stuff man!!! and it looks great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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