S t e v e Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 saw him on tv today, slurred speach and staring into space...say NO to drugs/narcotics kids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanvillRob Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 saw him on tv today, slurred speach and staring into space...say NO to drugs/narcotics kids He could also be suffereing from malnutrition since he's had to share meals with Carney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S t e v e Posted October 19, 2011 Author Share Posted October 19, 2011 He could also be suffereing from malnutrition since he's had to share meals with Carney. nope...he's fukced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damian Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 That tall glass of water always in front of him ???? It's VODKA...............Well known to cause slurred speach and and bizzare staring habits..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Brian, a musical "Genius," had a verbally and physically abusive father, is known to have Schizophenia, and retreated into drugs and alcohol, for years. His speach and mannorisms, by all accounts, are pretty typical, of people with Schizophrenia. From Schizophenia.com (August 30, 2006) The Beach Boys - Brian and Murray Wilson, Family Dysfunction and Schizophrenia Read more... Schizophrenia Causes, Risk Factors & Prevention · Schizophrenia Personal Story News and audio recordings that have just come out on Brian Wilson, the leader of the band "The Beach Boys" - and the news highlights some of the genetic susceptibility and environmental factors that are now believed to contribute to many cases of schizophrenia. The Beach Boys were one of the top bands in the 1960s and 1970s and much has been written about how in his early to mid 20's Brian Wilson had a "breakdown", and then descended into mental illness and drug abuse in the late '60s and '70s, taking less and less of a role in the Beach Boys. Withdrawing into himself, he spent long periods of time sleeping, taking drugs and overeating. Such behaviors are common among those developing schizophrenia. Additionally - the fact that Brian Wilson was extremely creative prior to the onset of schizophrenia - is also described as not uncommon in schizophrenia-prone people. Psychological studies indicate that highly creative people share an elevated risk of serious mental illness. Brian Wilson was then dramatically less creative after the schizophrenia set in - a fact that has been described in depth in the "Scientific American" magazine - where it stated: "Psychological studies also indicate that highly creative people share an elevated risk of serious mental illness. For certain individuals, such ailments may actually contribute to their soaring achievements. Yet often the same condition eventually ruins their inventiveness and their lives. Perhaps no story better exemplifies how mental illness can free up creativity, then crush it, than that of Brian Wilson" All of this is very interesting, you might say, but why are we covering this as news today. Well, in the past few years increasing research suggests that social stress, family dysfunction and child abuse can all play a role as a contributing factor in the development of schizophrenia. Following are just a few recent stories on this: Lower level of Family Stress May Reduce Risk of Schizophrenia in Children Trauma Link to Schizophrenia is Strengthened by New Research An Emotionally Healthy Family Social Environment May Reduce Schizophrenia Risk by 86% in High Risk Groups. All of this is relevant because today it was announced that there are actual recordings (from studio recording sessions) that you can listen to of Brian Wilson's father (Murry Wilson), who is described as "abusive and alcoholic", interacting in a highly dysfunctional way with the creative son who is trying to record his songs that would ultimately become some of the top sellers in the country. The WFMU radio station web site describes it this way: "January 8, 1965: The Beach Boys enter the studio to record what will become their second number one hit, Help Me Rhonda. Well into the session, a drunken Murry Wilson (Brian, Carl and Dennis' Dad) arrives and proceeds to commandeer the session with psychodrama, scat singing and weepy, abusive melodrama. The session tape captured it all, and versions of these tapes have been floating around bootlegs for years. The fact that the tapes survived is itself surprising - you can hear Brian and Murry fighting over the tape recorder controls at the 35:30 mark of the full version, Murry wanting to stop the recording, with Brian ultimately keeping the tape rolling. And it's a good thing that Brian won out, because this audio verifies many of the Murry Wilson horror stories described in the Steven Gaines book, Heroes and Villains: The True Story of The Beach Boys." After listening in on this session, It's easy to see why the Beach Boys eventually purchased Murry a fake audio console for their sessions, so he could twiddle knobs to his heart's delight without destroying anything. To listen to all the tapes over the Internet - and learn more - go here: The Murray Wilson Tapes. To be clear, parental/family dysfunction is only one of many factors that has been identified as contributing factors in schizophrenia (And, we don't want people to think that it is by any means thought by most researchers to be the leading contributing factor. That research has not been done.) In the case of Brian Wilson, however, it seems entirely possible that a genetic predisposition could easily have been pushed toward schizophrenia due to high levels of family stress, as well as work/band stress, and drug use that was common in the mid-1960s in California. Its impossible to know for sure how the environmental factors contributed to Brian Wilson's schizophrenia - but we suspect most psychologists would agree that the example of Brian Wilson's alcoholic, yelling, abusive and controlling father seems like a case study of how not to behave as a parent if you care about the mental health of your children. Posted by szadmin at August 30, 2006 11:48 AM CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S t e v e Posted October 19, 2011 Author Share Posted October 19, 2011 i heard the "brians fallen in between the piano keys...between a and c", somthing like that... :unsure: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morkolo Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 nope...he's fukced. I'm going to have to second that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Brian, a musical "Genius," had a verbally and physically abusive father, is known to have Schizophenia, and retreated into drugs and alcohol, for years. His speach and mannorisms, by all accounts, are pretty typical, of people with Schizophrenia. From Schizophenia.com (August 30, 2006) The Beach Boys - Brian and Murray Wilson, Family Dysfunction and Schizophrenia Read more... Schizophrenia Causes, Risk Factors & Prevention · Schizophrenia Personal Story... I'll see yer Brian Wilson story. Two Words: Guy on the left. rct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damian Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 It is remarkable that Brian Wilson is doing what he is doing these days....Recording, touring, interviewing, being honest, and living life as a happy camper......Good for him.........Mental illness can be a monster.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4Hayden Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 saw him on tv today, slurred speach and staring into space...say NO to drugs/narcotics kids No joke I saw him a few years back,couldn't understand a word he said & he was trying to sing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damian Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 No joke I saw him a few years back,couldn't understand a word he said & he was trying to sing. Brian Wilson and Ozzy Ozbourne are planning a "Duet" C.D. together........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigKahune Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 . Ease up guys. These are serious and tragic situations. Gordon ended up killing his mother (undiagnosed schizophrenia). . . . . . (rct's pic) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grampa Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 I've known some very bright and creative people who were schizophrenic but through a combination of their drugs and the "approved" presciption drugs, they ended up basket cases. Wilson's doing better than many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Yes, actually, considering what Brian went through, both from no choice, and through his own choices, and reasons for doing so, he's kind of a "miracle" survival story...IMHO. "Walk a mile," guys, before you judge too harshly. 'Cause..."There, but for the grace of God, (could) go you or I!" CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damian Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 There are a couple of members here who've "walked that mile" and still do.......I'm one of 'em, although I'm much better now.......... (don't have schizo though, that's a tough burden) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanvillRob Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 There are a couple of members here who've "walked that mile" and still do.......I'm one of 'em, although I'm much better now.......... (don't have schizo though, that's a tough burden) Everyone has a tough row to hoe is some fashion.... no perfect person has ever been born, (except to a young virgin over 2000 years ago). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notes_Norton Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Brian, a musical "Genius," had a verbally and physically abusive father, is known to have Schizophenia, and retreated into drugs and alcohol, for years. His speach and mannorisms, by all accounts, are pretty typical, of people with Schizophrenia. <...snip...> CB Thanks, CB. That was very interesting. Notes ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rogerb Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 I saw him 10 years ago and he was like that then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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