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Hooo boy. Ryan Adams

#1 User is offline   ThemisSal 

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Posted 13 February 2019 - 04:31 PM

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Pretty creepy stuff guys. A fan no more I be... I have a daughter...
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Posted 13 February 2019 - 05:03 PM

Incredibly disappointing. I was a huge fan as well. The sad thing is the majority of our culture won't hold it against these people.

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Posted 13 February 2019 - 05:27 PM

I'm a little older than some of you. Was never a fan. Just didn't dig his stuff.

Regardless, this is some creepy schit and, if true, is going to probably bite him hard. As it should.

I have a daughter too, Sal.

He'll blame drugs and alcohol but that's no excuse. I drank enough beer to literally float a battleship around, no offense to Ronny Van Zant, and never tried any of that low life scum bucket crap.

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Posted 13 February 2019 - 08:44 PM

The dude donít want to mess with us guys with daughters. Scumbag.
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Posted 13 February 2019 - 09:07 PM

For the sake of the women I hope it's all fake news, but the stories are not 30-40 yeas old and there seems to be a lot of women telling the same stories and there are a lot of texts, emails and there are some witnesses. If it's true, he needs to pay a big price. If it's not true, whoever is behind the stories needs to pay a big price. As it now looks, Adams is a first class a-hole.
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Posted 14 February 2019 - 03:30 AM

Would you all rather he actually slept with your daughters
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Posted 14 February 2019 - 03:59 AM

Errr Grunt.
Iím not sure Iíd be thankful he was sexting my 14 year old daughter and asking her to touch her nipple, instead of getting further like some of the others...
No... this one has some issues.
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Posted 14 February 2019 - 04:09 AM

 ThemisSal, on 14 February 2019 - 03:59 AM, said:

Errr Grunt.
Iím not sure Iíd be thankful he was sexting my 14 year old daughter and asking her to touch her nipple, instead of getting further like some of the others...
No... this one has some issues.


Sorry my post sounded like I was sticking up for him
I can assure I'm not

But if we had the ability to delve deep into everyone's private lives and get a glimpse of some actions , well there wouldn't be many left

Burn your led zeppelin CDs
Jerry Lee Lewis
Aerosmith
And God only knows what goes on everywhere all the time


I am a huge fan of this guys music and today I'm just thinking 'what a ******* idiot'
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Posted 14 February 2019 - 04:17 AM

I was a fan.
I canít listen anymore. I know what Iíd be thinking each time I heard the voice.
I guess there is a line. Sexual preference, politics, awkward, tortured soul...really all of that... I couldnít care less. Pedophile using his control... over the line.
Iíd like to see him show his Instagram selfie 44 year old guy photos sticking out his tongue in the prison yard.
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Posted 14 February 2019 - 07:48 AM

View Postblindboygrunt, on 14 February 2019 - 04:09 AM, said:

Sorry my post sounded like I was sticking up for him
I can assure I'm not

But if we had the ability to delve deep into everyone's private lives and get a glimpse of some actions , well there wouldn't be many left

Burn your led zeppelin CDs
Jerry Lee Lewis
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And God only knows what goes on everywhere all the time


I am a huge fan of this guys music and today I'm just thinking 'what a ******* idiot'

Yeah I have a membership to Audible and I have listened to a lot of Rock Stars Bio's, and on thing I have learned is, the more I learn about them the more you realize a lot of them are just scumbags. Jimmy Page was obsessed with that 14 year old model and I am sure did stuff with her, Steven Tyler was I am sure messing around with young girls, Ted Nugent the same thing. Jerry Lee of course the stuff with his young cousin or what she was, and he married her. So If your gonna take the route of I'm not gonna listen to music from guys who are sex junkies or manipulators in the music business then I am sure the list if music you would be listening to would be really short. Not sticking up for him, but none of us are Angels. Yes a lot of us have daughter's myself included, but there was a time when you didn't. You ever peruse someone you were attracted to or wanted to date or wanted to have sex with? So none of you guys back in the 60's or 70's or 80's or 90's or 00's or today, when a girl told you NO you complexly stopped in your tracks and left her alone?

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Posted 14 February 2019 - 08:12 AM

I used to like Mellow Yellow (donovan) but dont now because he was mad about 14 year old girls...bad lyric and now is the time we should realise it and evolve...
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Posted 14 February 2019 - 08:16 AM

View PostFZ Fan, on 14 February 2019 - 07:48 AM, said:

You ever peruse someone you were attracted to or wanted to date or wanted to have sex with? So none of you guys back in the 60's or 70's or 80's or 90's or 00's or today, when a girl told you NO you complexly stopped in your tracks and left her alone?


14 years old? Naaa bruh.
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Posted 14 February 2019 - 08:35 AM

View PostThemisSal, on 14 February 2019 - 08:16 AM, said:

14 years old? Naaa bruh.

Right 14 is just not right, but you tell me every male member on this site never ever tried to take it to far with a woman that was unwilling? I'm gonna throw the BS flag on that.
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Posted 14 February 2019 - 09:41 AM

Never cared for the guy myself. The opinion though was about his music and totally divorced from this kind of stuff.

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Posted 14 February 2019 - 10:01 AM

I have 3 daughters and a son of my own. I worry about all of them because of our crazy culture. Morals have been trampled in the name of relativism and self gratification at no cost. There is no regard for consequences for actions, especially for those in the lime light (actors, musicians, pro athletes, and politicians). The difference with Ryan Adams (and numerous others like him) is that it wasn't an accidental one time thing based upon speculation or hearsay. He clearly knew about the underage issue and pursued anyway. There are texts to back it up.

I do not give any more of my hard earned money to any of these individuals that are found out to be scum. I have given up some great bands/artists after discovering issues like this. I didn't listen to a particular band for 15 years because of this very sort of thing. I've pondered and tried to reconcile this, and have come to realize the art is separate from the individual. I can appreciate a beautiful song (I own) or painting and see it for what it is, while at the same time not respecting the individual who made it. However, I will avoid Ryan Adams and his work for a good while until I can reconcile within myself to start listening to the cd's of his I own again.

You can call me old fashioned, but I don't think you can argue that our society is failing our children. Parents (the majority) are failing at teaching kids to be gentlemen and ladies. Society is not going to do this for us. Education, morals, respect for their elders (and peers) are all suffering, and on, and on. Look at the trash in TV/movies/music/sports these days. Look at the continuing failing education markers. Our country is continually falling in all education aspects at the world level. Why should kids work hard at anything other trying to be a celebrity or professional video gamer? Why should kids try to live wholesome, respectful, accountable lives when all these celebrities don't and never have to pay any consequences? Why aren't parents and teachers being realistic with kids and telling them the probability of becoming a "successful" celebrity are slim to none? Why aren't we redefining "success"?

Too much PC bs out there IMO. Everyone is too afraid to speak the truth and call a spade a spade. Unfortunately, the left uses that to brand those that do sexist/racist/bigots/homophobic/etc. in order to silence them.

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Posted 14 February 2019 - 10:10 AM

View Postthegreatgumbino, on 14 February 2019 - 10:01 AM, said:

I have 3 daughters and a son of my own. I worry about all of them because of our crazy culture. Morals have been trampled in the name of relativism and self gratification at no cost. There is no regard for consequences for actions, especially for those in the lime light (actors, musicians, pro athletes, and politicians). The difference with Ryan Adams (and numerous others like him) is that it wasn't an accidental one time thing based upon speculation or hearsay. He clearly knew about the underage issue and pursued anyway. There are texts to back it up.

I do not give any more of my hard earned money to any of these individuals that are found out to be scum. I have given up some great bands/artists after discovering issues like this. I didn't listen to a particular band for 15 years because of this very sort of thing. I've pondered and tried to reconcile this, and have come to realize the art is separate from the individual. I can appreciate a beautiful song (I own) or painting and see it for what it is, while at the same time not respecting the individual who made it. However, I will avoid Ryan Adams and his work for a good while until I can reconcile within myself to start listening to the cd's of his I own again.

You can call me old fashioned, but I don't think you can argue that our society is failing our children. Parents (the majority) are failing at teaching kids to be gentlemen and ladies. Society is not going to do this for us. Education, morals, respect for their elders (and peers) are all suffering, and on, and on. Look at the trash in TV/movies/music/sports these days. Look at the continuing failing education markers. Our country is continually falling in all education aspects at the world level. Why should kids work hard at anything other trying to be a celebrity or professional video gamer? Why should kids try to live wholesome, respectful, accountable lives when all these celebrities don't and never have to pay any consequences? Why aren't parents and teachers being realistic with kids and telling them the probability of becoming a "successful" celebrity are slim to none? Why aren't we redefining "success"?

Too much PC bs out there IMO. Everyone is too afraid to speak the truth and call a spade a spade. Unfortunately, the left uses that to brand those that do sexist/racist/bigots/homophobic/etc. in order to silence them.


So I'm guessing you don't listen to much music then. The Beatles were all not great people. I believe all The Beatles have fessed up to hitting their girlfriend or wives. Most if not all of them cheated on their girlfriends or wives. So I am guessing you don't listen to them anymore. Yet IMOH and many others made some if the best music ever, and the list goes on.The fact is that there are horrible people out there that do make great music. Remember just because we are humans with the big intelligent brains does not mean we are also not animals.It certainly does not excuse what he did and like I said I am not sticking up for him.

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Posted 14 February 2019 - 10:10 AM

View Postthegreatgumbino, on 14 February 2019 - 10:01 AM, said:

I have 3 daughters and a son of my own. I worry about all of them because of our crazy culture. Morals have been trampled in the name of relativism and self gratification at no cost. There is no regard for consequences for actions, especially for those in the lime light (actors, musicians, pro athletes, and politicians). The difference with Ryan Adams (and numerous others like him) is that it wasn't an accidental one time thing based upon speculation or hearsay. He clearly knew about the underage issue and pursued anyway. There are texts to back it up.

I do not give any more of my hard earned money to any of these individuals that are found out to be scum. I have given up some great bands/artists after discovering issues like this. I didn't listen to a particular band for 15 years because of this very sort of thing. I've pondered and tried to reconcile this, and have come to realize the art is separate from the individual. I can appreciate a beautiful song (I own) or painting and see it for what it is, while at the same time not respecting the individual who made it. However, I will avoid Ryan Adams and his work for a good while until I can reconcile within myself to start listening to the cd's of his I own again.

You can call me old fashioned, but I don't think you can argue that our society is failing our children. Parents (the majority) are failing at teaching kids to be gentlemen and ladies. Society is not going to do this for us. Education, morals, respect for their elders (and peers) are all suffering, and on, and on. Look at the trash in TV/movies/music/sports these days. Look at the continuing failing education markers. Our country is continually falling in all education aspects at the world level. Why should kids work hard at anything other trying to be a celebrity or professional video gamer? Why should kids try to live wholesome, respectful, accountable lives when all these celebrities don't and never have to pay any consequences? Why aren't parents and teachers being realistic with kids and telling them the probability of becoming a "successful" celebrity are slim to none? Why aren't we redefining "success"?

Too much PC bs out there IMO. Everyone is too afraid to speak the truth and call a spade a spade. Unfortunately, the left uses that to brand those that do sexist/racist/bigots/homophobic/etc. in order to silence them.

so all the left are bad and the right is right? *** backwards bud...
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Posted 14 February 2019 - 10:12 AM

View Postjvi, on 14 February 2019 - 10:10 AM, said:

so all the left are bad and the right is right? *** backwards bud...


You can try and put words in my mouth, but that isn't what I said. Perfect example.
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Posted 14 February 2019 - 10:15 AM

"the left uses that to brand" what is the left to you?

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Posted 14 February 2019 - 10:15 AM

View PostFZ Fan, on 14 February 2019 - 10:10 AM, said:

So I'm guessing you don't listen to much music then. The Beatles were all not great people. I believe all The Beatles have fessed up to hitting their girlfriend or wives. Most if not all of them cheated on their girlfriends or wives. So I am guessing you don't listen to them anymore. Yet IMOH and many others made some if the best music ever, and the list goes on.


You clearly didn't read my post, as I spoke about how I've reconciled with art versus the artist. However, just like with a breakup, if someone hurts you, you tend to avoid them until the hurt subsides and you are able to forgive.
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