Sgt. Pepper Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 21 minutes ago, PatriotsBiker said: I wrote above that they(the Silver ones) were aggressive in nature, but were controllable. Basically, If I got sloppy with volume control, they could get too loud in quick fashion. The grip is so good do to the sticky nectar on the picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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E-minor7 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 Yes PB ‼️ such a huge fan of this guitar. He doesn't play it much, but I've listened what must be 25 times and even contacted the demonstrator for a few Qs. A member here got it quick - lucky him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoSoxBiker Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Oh, cool! We'll "see" it around, then. Seems like they are knocking some of these Historic series out of the park. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuroAussie Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 (edited) On 7/17/2020 at 2:02 PM, MissouriPicker said: Nice version of “Hurt.” Good vibe with the bird and your vocal. Thanks a lot Larry, it was a long, long time ago, good to hear from ya .. Just on the topic, i recall this specific video is what fired up my desire for the Hummingbird orginally, some 12 yeras ago or so. Dunno exactly what i love about this clip, but its a mix of that rocky mid range sound , the nectar dripping on those single note lines and that cut through in the rhythm ... or maybe just the shitty qualty video that kinda gave that tone .. but anyways, i find it captures that Humminbird blend of laid back folkiness and rock grit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpDueO5bxqU Edited July 20, 2020 by EuroAussie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALD323 Posted July 23, 2020 Author Share Posted July 23, 2020 On 7/14/2020 at 10:28 PM, E-minor7 said: The Herco Flex 50 does it for me. Medium - a harder pick is too loud to develop the percussive touch, which is the secret ingredient in the nectarish voice. !! hold it a bit loose and don't play too heavy. UPDATE: I ordered these Herco Flex 50 picks for the Hummingbird to see if they would help bring out the so called nectar tone so often talked about. They did and they work well, and I like the gold bronze color and feel and tone of the Herco! I also like the Dunlop light grey .60 picks for this as well as the Fender thins. All three seem to work well with the Herco having just a tad deeper tone overall...the Fender thins a lighter tone, and the Dunlop .60 falls somewhere in between my ears tell me....but honey with all three in varying degrees. And so all three seem to produce the honey pretty well when held and used correctly. Holding but not squeezing the pick helps...a lighter strike attack helps greatly also letting the pick tip brush and glide over the strings vs the slightly harder attack I was using on the J-45. All in all I have indeed discovered that tone I had been craving from my bird but was just not getting. I had been using a harder pick, and striking too hard, and not remembering to use the picks nearer toward the bridge when I want these tones. I had also been using Dunlop Ultex .73, and also Fender Mediums. Those will still likely be my go to pics on the J-45, while the Hummingbird, I will stay with the nylons or the thin fender as they all sound really nice. Thanks all for your help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 2 hours ago, ALD323 said: UPDATE: I ordered these Herco Flex 50 picks for the Hummingbird to see if they would help bring out the so called nectar tone so often talked about. They did and they work well, and I like the gold bronze color and feel and tone of the Herco! I also like the Dunlop light grey .60 picks for this as well as the Fender thins. All three seem to work well with the Herco having just a tad deeper tone overall...the Fender thins a lighter tone, and the Dunlop .60 falls somewhere in between my ears tell me....but honey with all three in varying degrees. And so all three seem to produce the honey pretty well when held and used correctly. Holding but not squeezing the pick helps...a lighter strike attack helps greatly also letting the pick tip brush and glide over the strings vs the slightly harder attack I was using on the J-45. All in all I have indeed discovered that tone I had been craving from my bird but was just not getting. I had been using a harder pick, and striking too hard, and not remembering to use the picks nearer toward the bridge when I want these tones. I had also been using Dunlop Ultex .73, and also Fender Mediums. Those will still likely be my go to pics on the J-45, while the Hummingbird, I will stay with the nylons or the thin fender as they all sound really nice. Thanks all for your help! Sounds great ^ glad you came closer to the precious N, , , and I'm almost sure there'll be more of it now that you have found out where to look. The right touch will do the rest. Enjoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoSoxBiker Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 That's great, ALD323. My Herco 50s came in as well. I've tried all 4 out on my SJ-200 so far and there are differences with that one as with the others. I'm glad you started this thread. I'm going to need a bigger pick bowl. 🙂 Hummingbird week is getting closer..... On a side note, by pure chance, I read this week that Pete Townsend used Herco Heavy picks for a while. Not that it matters for this discussion... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALD323 Posted July 24, 2020 Author Share Posted July 24, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, PatriotsBiker said: That's great, ALD323. My Herco 50s came in as well. I've tried all 4 out on my SJ-200 so far and there are differences with that one as with the others. I'm glad you started this thread. I'm going to need a bigger pick bowl. 🙂 Hummingbird week is getting closer..... On a side note, by pure chance, I read this week that Pete Townsend used Herco Heavy picks for a while. Not that it matters for this discussion... Yes Patriot, I heard Townsend and Neil Young as well..both used this pick.! I love the Hummingbird nectar so much that I actually just SOLD my 2013 Hummingbird and bought a brand new Vintage Cherry 2020 Hummingbird Standard!!! ( I prefer standard models on Gibsons)....but Wow...😬these picks really cost me!!!🤑 lol.... I'm sure a new or used Hummingbird would go great with your SJ-200!!! Mine sits along side my J-45 standard. Gibsons are just sheer magic. Edited July 24, 2020 by ALD323 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoSoxBiker Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 51 minutes ago, ALD323 said: Yes Patriot, I heard Townsend and Neil Young as well..both used this pick.! I love the Hummingbird nectar so much that I actually just SOLD my 2013 Hummingbird and bought a brand new Vintage Cherry 2020 Hummingbird Standard!!! ( I prefer standard models on Gibsons)....but Wow...😬these picks really cost me!!!🤑 lol.... I'm sure a new or used Hummingbird would go great with your SJ-200!!! Mine sits along side my J-45 standard. Gibsons are just sheer magic. 🙂 🙂 🙂 Indeed, it does! I am very fortunate to have a 2018 Standard. It's my Wife's favorite of my guitars, so it stays out on the stand longer than others. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Take a look at this still from a movie found on the big WWW today - Double-sweet, isn't it. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
62burst Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 1 hour ago, E-minor7 said: Double-sweet, isn't it. . Took a while to spot it, but all are represented there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 42 minutes ago, 62burst said: Took a while to spot it, but all are represented there. It stood still there for quite a while, , , for some reason attracted to the 12th fret. Well, still and still, , , the little birdy was air-dancing in sheer joy. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strat71 Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 (edited) when i bought my used 50th anniversary hummingbird, the shop provided a dunlop pick, this one: https://www.jimdunlop.com/celluloid-shell-pick-heavy/ and i found that it brings the honey feel you talk about... i found that celluloid is the equivalent of my real tortoise shell on my electric, the best pick you can dream about... i tried other "plastic" pick but they don't sound the same, cheaper... the heavy size is cool when you need to force a little on the strings, but to be honest i use one of the two round sides instead of the sharp one to get the mellow-ness.. so you know, i use PB d'addario EJ16 or EXP16, i hate 80/20 on my Hummingbird... loose the hummy sound... Ben Edited July 29, 2020 by strat71 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuakerOatmeal Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 (edited) On 7/19/2020 at 5:47 PM, PatriotsBiker said: I have this guitar and I love it. I use a Dunlop Primetone Grip .88 picks I wish this model got more attention! I'd love to see the acoustic letter review it, or andertons! Edited July 29, 2020 by QuakerOatmeal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 3 hours ago, QuakerOatmeal said: I have this guitar and I love it. I use a Dunlop Primetone Grip .88 picks I wish this model got more attention! I'd love to see the acoustic letter review it, or andertons! You are a lucky guy, , , and why not review it yourself. Btw. is it as orange in real life as seen in the video ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuakerOatmeal Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, E-minor7 said: You are a lucky guy, , , and why not review it yourself. Btw. is it as orange in real life as seen in the video ? Photos taken this past week when I changed the string and polished her up ! It's more like a reddish brown, or dark brown pumpkin maybe. Unfortunately, I'm honestly not qualified enough, to do a review xD Side note- it's the best smelling guitar I have ever whiffed. Edited July 29, 2020 by QuakerOatmeal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 2 hours ago, QuakerOatmeal said: Photos taken this past week when I changed the string and polished her up ! It's more like a reddish brown, or dark brown pumpkin maybe. Unfortunately, I'm honestly not qualified enough, to do a review xD Side note- it's the best smelling guitar I have ever whiffed. It's beautiful, , , and a lot like the Vintage and True Vintage models. Guess back'n'sides are darker too. Enjoy the smell - it won't last forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoSoxBiker Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 That is so nice! Congrats, btw. that's got to be a really nice experience to play. There's one at Wildwood, where I got my SJ-200 recently. At least last night when I was perusing around. I can't wait to hear more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WineredHB Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Do I understand it correctly: this nectar tone is to be heard acoustically, or picked up with a microphone. Or is it also possible with the Baggs pickup? Do you use the same picks with the pickup, or harder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsongs Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 (edited) Thin Picks give a brighter tone on all Guitars.. What you call the Nectar tone. Medium Picks are less Bright & Heavy Picks are even less Bright on all Guitars… The thicker the Pick the thicker the Sound. Edited October 9, 2021 by Larsongs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 15 hours ago, WineredHB said: Do I understand it correctly: this nectar tone is to be heard acoustically, or picked up with a microphone. Or is it also possible with the Baggs pickup? Do you use the same picks with the pickup, or harder? The attractive nectar or honey glaze is primarily an acoustic phenomenon. It can be recorded with an extern mike, but thins out with the L.R. Baggs. A PA system may not leave too many chances - especially not in a bigger venue. Then again there's no sweet-N-formula carved in granite. You must go by your own ears and 'hear your way forward'. Have fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave F Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 My pick as of late is the Apollo Casein pick .065" (1.66mm) with the Fender Mojogrip. Seems to give me the best control and I can hear the difference. Grips help me with the arthritis. Fretboard Journal did a special run of them recently. https://www.apollopicks.com/store Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanvillRob Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 On 7/14/2020 at 8:35 PM, BoSoxBiker said: Can anyone point me to a good example of that nectar tone? It's when you play in the key of "Bee"! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 3 hours ago, DanvillRob said: It's when you play in the key of "Bee"! 😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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