I Guess Julius Cesar Thinks This Is What You Want

[Sgt. Pepper]

41 minutes ago, Murph said:

The horns are much larger on the SG, whereas the Melody Maker and Brian May's guitar they are much smaller and out of the way.

There's a good argument for double cuts.

Sure but how many guitarist are switch hitters? How many times have you ever turned any of your double cuts around, and played it the other way? I’ll bet none.

Sure guitars need to perform a certain function no matter what they look like, but why not have a guitar that at least looks cool. The Ted is Uber uncool.

Oh you play a guitar that looks like a flower.

Edited March 20 by Sgt. Pepper

[Company Grip]

1 hour ago, Murph said:

Looks like Brian May's guitar.

Not many options for guitar shapes, it actually looks comfortable, not much different from my 62 Melody maker.

62? 🤔  64 or 65, no?

 

Edited March 20 by Company Grip

[badbluesplayer]

This is where the new guys start making the same mistakes as the old guys.  They just go through phases, like thirteen year old kids.  They get some dumb idea and there's nobody to tell them how dumb the idea is, cause they're all just business bros trying to stick their foot in some door to see if they smell money somewhere.  What they need at Gibson is some people who know the value of restraint.  How tough is that?

Biz Bros don't understand that when you fail at something, it's not just an loss in the ledger.  Successful people don't fail.  When you fail, it haunts you like ten times as bad as just the money you lost.  Once you've failed, you never get that chance back.

[Sgt. Pepper]

14 minutes ago, badbluesplayer said:

This is where the new guys start making the same mistakes as the old guys.  They just go through phases, like thirteen year old kids.  They get some dumb idea and there's nobody to tell them how dumb the idea is, cause they're all just business bros trying to stick their foot in some door to see if they smell money somewhere.  What they need at Gibson is some people who know the value of restraint.  How tough is that?

Biz Bros don't understand that when you fail at something, it's not just a loss in the ledger.  Successful people don't fail.  When you fail, it haunts you like ten times as bad as just the money you lost.  Once you've failed, you never get that chance back.

Yeah but sitting in the big leather chair in the corner office with a window, and your name on the door and CEO on it, and making millions a year eases the haunting. At least it would for me. If this guy fails, Gibson will get another one. Since I started playing guitars Gibson must be on at least their fourth CEO and they had to have a few before that.

Gibson are so far out of touch with reality they’re not even a working man’s guitar company anymore. They’re more concerned in making collectors guitars for rich people that can afford them.

And this guitar isn’t even a new design. It’s just a sketchy made in the late 50’s that never went anywhere,  because he knew it was probably ridiculous.

Edited March 20 by Sgt. Pepper

[Sgt. Pepper]

Only 2k. Get em before Joe Bonamassa does.

https://www.gibson.com/en-US/Electric-Guitar/Theodore-Standard/Ebony

[Phil OKeefe]

1 hour ago, badbluesplayer said:

Successful people don't fail.  

 

With all due respect, that's utter blarney. 

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

29 minutes ago, Phil OKeefe said:

 

With all due respect, that's utter blarney. 

 

Edison thought the entire United States should be on direct current power instead of alternating current power, because he was just a stupid inventor, and had no clue what electricity did. Tesla was the real brain. It’s debatable weather Edison invented the light bulb at all. Most think he nicked the idea.

[NighthawkChris]

I'm betting if Taylor sported the guitar this thread is about, it would lift sales a bit, haha!  Yes, it confuses me too if you fall in this camp. 

[badbluesplayer]

58 minutes ago, Phil OKeefe said:

 

With all due respect, that's utter blarney. 

 

I'll tell you what, Buddy.  I'll just let you say that and go on.  Mr. 150 Posts and You're Going to Come On Here and Shape the Conversation.  I'll just let it go.

Edited March 20 by badbluesplayer

[Phil OKeefe]

22 minutes ago, badbluesplayer said:

I'll tell you what, Buddy.  I'll just let you say that and go on.  Mr. 150 Posts and You're Going to Come On Here and Shape the Conversation.  I'll just let it go.

Yes, I have only a hundred and fifty or so posts here, but I have over a hundred thousand posts across various music, music equipment, and recording forums. But you know what? The number of posts someone has is not always directly correlated with their level of knowledge, the accuracy of their statements, or even the value of their opinions. 

I'm not trying to "shape the conversation." I stated my opinion. It is only my personal opinion. I am always (and have always been) careful to clearly state when I am making a statement in my official capacity as a moderator or site administrator, and I was not doing so with my post in this thread. I was just stating a personal opinion - nothing more. You're 100% free to criticize that opinion or disagree with it, just as you can with the opinions of anyone else here. It's a discussion, and people are free to share their opinions and civilly debate them. 

I stand by what I said. You said successful people don't fail. Again, I think that's blarney. Successful people fail all the time. Everyone does. What differentiates successful people is how they respond to their failures. They tend to learn from them. They adapt. They get up and move on to their next project or endeavor. They persevere and they don't give up. I can give you examples if you'd like. No, Sgt. Pepper, I did not have Edison in mind - how about Elon Musk and SpaceX? They have a "move fast and break things" ethos that allows them to make rapid improvements after each failed launch, and they're currently the largest operator of satellites in the world. The Falcon 9  launcher failed multiple times in early launch attempts, but it now has a 99% success rate after hundreds of launches. Starship has failed multiple times, but they learn from each failure and each subsequent launch accomplishes more than the previous one. They keep going until they learn how to get it right. That's just one example. There are many more. Want a musical example? McCartney and Wings - Wild Life. In the opinion of most critics, it was an awful album. It doesn't have any well-known songs or big hits on it. It didn't sell very well, either. But while it's arguably a failed album, McCartney & Wings went on to release other albums in its wake that were critically well-received, and quite financially successful, such as Band On The Run. Despite that early post-Beatles failure, McCartney went on to have, by far, the most successful post-Beatles career of all of the Fab Four. 

Show me someone who hasn't failed, and I'll show you someone who has never tried to accomplish anything. 

 

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

2 hours ago, NighthawkChris said:

I'm betting if Taylor sported the guitar this thread is about, it would lift sales a bit, haha!  Yes, it confuses me too if you fall in this camp. 

She’s proof just because 40,000 girls and their moms show up at a concert that her music is any good. I don’t hear what that fuss is about. Oh great Taylor has another song about a broken relationship. Wow.

Edited March 20 by Sgt. Pepper

[Sgt. Pepper]

1 hour ago, Phil OKeefe said:

Yes, I have only a hundred and fifty or so posts here, but I have over a hundred thousand posts across various music, music equipment, and recording forums. But you know what? The number of posts someone has is not always directly correlated with their level of knowledge, the accuracy of their statements, or even the value of their opinions. 

I'm not trying to "shape the conversation." I stated my opinion. It is only my personal opinion. I am always (and have always been) careful to clearly state when I am making a statement in my official capacity as a moderator or site administrator, and I was not doing so with my post in this thread. I was just stating a personal opinion - nothing more. You're 100% free to criticize that opinion or disagree with it, just as you can with the opinions of anyone else here. It's a discussion, and people are free to share their opinions and civilly debate them. 

I stand by what I said. You said successful people don't fail. Again, I think that's blarney. Successful people fail all the time. Everyone does. What differentiates successful people is how they respond to their failures. They tend to learn from them. They adapt. They get up and move on to their next project or endeavor. They persevere and they don't give up. I can give you examples if you'd like. No, Sgt. Pepper, I did not have Edison in mind - how about Elon Musk and SpaceX? They have a "move fast and break things" ethos that allows them to make rapid improvements after each failed launch, and they're currently the largest operator of satellites in the world. The Falcon 9  launcher failed multiple times in early launch attempts, but it now has a 99% success rate after hundreds of launches. Starship has failed multiple times, but they learn from each failure and each subsequent launch accomplishes more than the previous one. They keep going until they learn how to get it right. That's just one example. There are many more. Want a musical example? McCartney and Wings - Wild Life. In the opinion of most critics, it was an awful album. It doesn't have any well-known songs or big hits on it. It didn't sell very well, either. But while it's arguably a failed album, McCartney & Wings went on to release other albums in its wake that were critically well-received, and quite financially successful, such as Band On The Run. Despite that early post-Beatles failure, McCartney went on to have, by far, the most successful post-Beatles career of all of the Fab Four. 

Show me someone who hasn't failed, and I'll show you someone who has never tried to accomplish anything. 

 

 

You gonna strap yourself into one of Elon’s rockets? When I worked at NASA, we used to watch the launches and the landings of the Space X crafts. There’s another one that landed at a 75 degree angle and is now on fire. 

I would not. I’ll bet none of the NASA trained Astronauts would either.

Edited March 20 by Sgt. Pepper

[NighthawkChris]

11 minutes ago, Sgt. Pepper said:

She’s proof just because 40,000 girls and their moms show up at a concert that her music is any good. I don’t hear what that fuss is about. Oh great Taylor has another song about a broken relationship. Wow.

Hahaha!  I feel the sentiment. 

[Phil OKeefe]

12 minutes ago, Sgt. Pepper said:

You gonna strap yourself into one of Elon’s rockets? When I worked at NASA, we used to watch the launches and the landings of the Space X crafts. There’s another one that landed at a 75 degree angle and is now on fire. 

I would not. I’ll bet none of the NASA trained Astronauts would either.

 

You've already lost that bet since NASA astronauts have already flown on a SpaceX rocket, and more are scheduled to do so in the future. 

https://www.reuters.com/technology/space/spacex-launches-its-eighth-long-duration-crew-orbit-nasa-2024-03-04/

I never worked for NASA, but I used to live on Merritt Island and have seen plenty of launches. I even saw a shuttle launch from 35,000 feet once, then saw the same mission land at Edwards a couple of weeks later. 

Given the opportunity, would I accept the risk and join the crew of a NASA or SpaceX mission? Yes, I would. YMMV. 

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

17 hours ago, Phil OKeefe said:

 

You've already lost that bet since NASA astronauts have already flown on a SpaceX rocket, and more are scheduled to do so in the future. 

https://www.reuters.com/technology/space/spacex-launches-its-eighth-long-duration-crew-orbit-nasa-2024-03-04/

I never worked for NASA, but I used to live on Merritt Island and have seen plenty of launches. I even saw a shuttle launch from 35,000 feet once, then saw the same mission land at Edwards a couple of weeks later. 

Given the opportunity, would I accept the risk and join the crew of a NASA or SpaceX mission? Yes, I would. YMMV. 

 

Good on ya. I quit working for NASA in 2021. At the end of the day it’s just a job and I had a boss, like every other job I’ve ever had.

I wouldn’t even want one of his cars or that hideous truck either.

Edited March 21 by Sgt. Pepper

[Sheepdog1969]

20 hours ago, badbluesplayer said:

Successful people don't fail.

Although I value your opinion brother, I felt compelled to interject a bit, if only to disagree and then get back to your most salient point which we both agree on.

99%+ of truly successful people, those with long term track records of success, have histories of failure, (some more pronounced than others). One important thing that differentiates successful people from unsuccessful people, is how each of these groups deal with failure. 

The successful group has learned from past failures, (especially the failures of  others in similar situations). This group understands the ramifications of failure, is prepared for failure with contingencies, and mitigates the liabilities of failure with rational "make lemon-aid out of lemons" strategies. This group stopped wearing "Rose colored glasses" years ago, and will not tolerate statements such as, "Don't worry about that, everything will turn out fine.". Successful people actually worry about everything, but they do most of their worrying while crafting their business plan before implementing it, thus visualizing failure INSTEAD  OF SUCCESS , at each step.

Unsuccessful people tend to be defined by the paragraph above, but in the opposite.

Failure is universal, common, and necessary. Human learning and advancement has been predicated by failing, understanding why we failed, and then eventually achieving success via failure's education. Better yet, as human communication abilities advance, successful members of our species begin to learn from the failure of others, far beyond the firsthand visual observations our ancestors were limited to.  Far more has been learned from failure than has ever been learned from success. In my early twenties I decided to open my own bar in Chicago. At the time, Mayor Daley was making it almost impossible to get a new liquor license. He even denied Harry Carey a liquor license when he tried to open a second bar/restaurant near Wrigley Field. Undeterred, I spent months at City Hall scouring the pre-computer paper files in Chicago's Liquor License Appeals Office. I was NOT researching successful liquor license application appeals, I was studying every single reason that legit and qualified applicants were being denied/failing, for the second time, through the Appeals Process. Buy studying their failures, I found the "magic formula", and became the youngest new liquor license holder in the City of Chicago ever. (I was 24 when I was approved and opened for business.)

So yes, successful people defiantly have failed. HOWEVER, truly successful people STOP FAILING IN REALLY BIG WAYS quite early in their careers. Repetitively failing while at the highest echelon of one of the world best guitar manufacturers, (if not the best guitar company), is not only unacceptable, but calls into question how they got into that management position in the first place. Gibson's corporate structure, like most big global companies, is designed to provide nearly infinite market data, tech data, material and production data, etc., to top corporate decision makers in order to insure sales success. Heck, Gibson set up this Forum specifically for sales and marketing purposes, and if you think otherwise, I have a bridge to sell you. (In my opinion, Gibson under utilizes this forum to advance it's business success, btw.). 

I just noticed that as I have been thoughtfully replying to BBP, this thread has gone NUTS, mostly with people saying kinda what I'm saying. So here's my take folks!  

Edited March 21 by Sheepdog1969
typo

[Sheepdog1969]

12 hours ago, Phil OKeefe said:

You've already lost that bet since NASA astronauts have already flown on a SpaceX rocket, and more are scheduled to do so in the future. 

Hey Phil, I was just about to say the same thing, but you beat me to it. The reason I wanted to respond to the Space-X comment was because my daughter wore this jean jacket to school today. (See below. Note the DM-2 patch!!! ) She is going to study Aerospace engineering in the fall @ BAMA, btw

[Murph]

21 hours ago, badbluesplayer said:

 Successful people don't fail.  

That's the second dumbest statement I've ever seen.

Successful people fail ALL THE TIME.

The difference is, they don't QUIT.....

Abraham Lincoln Didn't Quit

Probably the greatest example of persistence is Abraham Lincoln. If you want to learn about somebody who didn't quit, look no further.

Born into poverty, Lincoln was faced with defeat throughout his life. He lost eight elections, twice failed in business and suffered a nervous breakdown.

He could have quit many times - but he didn't and because he didn't quit, he became one of the greatest presidents in the history of our country.

Lincoln was a champion and he never gave up. Here is a sketch of Lincoln's road to the White House:

• 1816: His family was forced out of their home. He had to work to support them.
• 1818: His mother died.
• 1831: Failed in business.
• 1832: Ran for state legislature - lost.
• 1832: Also lost his job - wanted to go to law school but couldn’t get in.
• 1833: Borrowed some money from a friend to begin a business and by the end of the year he was bankrupt. He spent the next 17 years of his life paying off this debt.
• 1834: Ran for state legislature again - won.
• 1835: Was engaged to be married, sweetheart died and his heart was broken.
• 1836: Had a total nervous breakdown and was in bed for six months.
• 1838: Sought to become speaker of the state legislature - defeated.
• 1840: Sought to become elector - defeated.
• 1843: Ran for Congress - lost.
• 1846: Ran for Congress again - this time he won - went to Washington and did a good job.
• 1848: Ran for re-election to Congress - lost.
• 1849 Sought the job of land officer in his home state - rejected.
• 1854: Ran for Senate of the United States - lost.
• 1856: Sought the Vice-Presidential nomination at his party’s national convention - got less than 100 votes.
• 1858: Ran for U.S. Senate again - again he lost.
• 1860: Elected president of the United States.

[Sgt. Pepper]

4 hours ago, Sheepdog1969 said:

Hey Phil, I was just about to say the same thing, but you beat me to it. The reason I wanted to respond to the Space-X comment was because my daughter wore this jean jacket to school today. (See below. Note the DM-2 patch!!! ) She is going to study Aerospace engineering in the fall @ BAMA, btw

I have a bunch of ISS stickers I got when I worked at NASA. I think I have one on each guitar case I have. Where I worked it was all Wind Tunnel Testing. And yes it’s Aerospace Engineering and not rocket science. Anybody’s office I went into, none had rocket science on their college degree. It always said, aerospace engineering.

Edited March 21 by Sgt. Pepper

[Sgt. Pepper]

I think the Neon Green J-45’s were a fail, and Martin’s dogs playing cards guitar too. 

Edited March 21 by Sgt. Pepper

[Murph]

18 minutes ago, Sgt. Pepper said:

 And yes it’s not rocket science. 

Or brain surgery...

[Sgt. Pepper]

13 minutes ago, Murph said:

Or brain surgery...

Yeah those guys and girls probably have MD on their college degrees. Brain Salad Surgery is better.

Edited March 21 by Sgt. Pepper

[Sgt. Pepper]

These guys approve.

[badbluesplayer]

21 hours ago, Phil OKeefe said:

Yes, I have only a hundred and fifty or so posts here, but I have over a hundred thousand posts across various music, music equipment, and recording forums. But you know what? The number of posts someone has is not always directly correlated with their level of knowledge, the accuracy of their statements, or even the value of their opinions. 

I'm not trying to "shape the conversation." I stated my opinion. It is only my personal opinion. I am always (and have always been) careful to clearly state when I am making a statement in my official capacity as a moderator or site administrator, and I was not doing so with my post in this thread. I was just stating a personal opinion - nothing more. You're 100% free to criticize that opinion or disagree with it, just as you can with the opinions of anyone else here. It's a discussion, and people are free to share their opinions and civilly debate them. 

I stand by what I said. You said successful people don't fail. Again, I think that's blarney. Successful people fail all the time. Everyone does. What differentiates successful people is how they respond to their failures. They tend to learn from them. They adapt. They get up and move on to their next project or endeavor. They persevere and they don't give up. I can give you examples if you'd like. No, Sgt. Pepper, I did not have Edison in mind - how about Elon Musk and SpaceX? They have a "move fast and break things" ethos that allows them to make rapid improvements after each failed launch, and they're currently the largest operator of satellites in the world. The Falcon 9  launcher failed multiple times in early launch attempts, but it now has a 99% success rate after hundreds of launches. Starship has failed multiple times, but they learn from each failure and each subsequent launch accomplishes more than the previous one. They keep going until they learn how to get it right. That's just one example. There are many more. Want a musical example? McCartney and Wings - Wild Life. In the opinion of most critics, it was an awful album. It doesn't have any well-known songs or big hits on it. It didn't sell very well, either. But while it's arguably a failed album, McCartney & Wings went on to release other albums in its wake that were critically well-received, and quite financially successful, such as Band On The Run. Despite that early post-Beatles failure, McCartney went on to have, by far, the most successful post-Beatles career of all of the Fab Four. 

Show me someone who hasn't failed, and I'll show you someone who has never tried to accomplish anything. 

 

 

Here's a thought.  Do not respond to my posts anymore.  You've worn out your welcome with me. 

Who the heck are you anyway?  If I find out you're getting paid to come on here and argue with people like me, I'll have your job.  Got it, pal?

Now go bother somebody else.  And I better not find out you're getting paid to come on here, because then you'll have to tell who your boss is, and then you're going to be gone once I follow up.  Got the picture, Mister?

[Sgt. Pepper]

4 minutes ago, badbluesplayer said:

Here's a thought.  Do not respond to my posts anymore.  You've worn out your welcome with me. 

Who the heck are you anyway?  If I find out you're getting paid to come on here and argue with people like me, I'll have your job.  Got it, pal?

Now go bother somebody else.  And I better not find out you're getting paid to come on here, because then you'll have to tell who your boss is, and then you're going to be gone once I follow up.  Got the picture, Mister?

I think he’s a Gibson employee and Mod.

Your fired - wait that was another guys line.