Lars68 Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 Starts at the 6:56 minute mark. I think it works. How about you? Lars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J185cat Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 That would work for me! Love the sound and like the look also. I’m probably more receptive to non-traditional stuff than some so I’m sure there are some who be put off a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyearspickn Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 I was prepared to NOT like it. But I thought it sounded better than the other guitars highlighted in the clip. Of course, bling is another thing. Some like it hot, some like it cold... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrairieSchooner Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 After years of my HD-28 I showed up to a jam at a friend's house with my J-200. When I opened the case he gave me a wide-eyed raised eyebrows look and shielded his eyes. 😀 I guess I'm one of those traditional guys; I like both a plain old dread and my big ol' Gibby which I call my Cowboy guitar, but I'm not necessarily a fan of the hybrid look. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 (edited) With me the first question I ask myself is do I like a guitar enough that I would trade, in this case, either my 1942 J50 or 1960 J200 for it. The answer has aways been a resounding no. But the next question that pops into my head is would I give it a home? Based on the video, that M2M guitar would be a distinct possibility. Best guess is while the bling is meaningless, maple body J45s have never failed to intrigue the heck out of me. I always wondered why Bozeman did not go in that direction more than they did - say a Russ Barenberg signature J45. Now if I could only overcome the feeling that spending any money on another guitar is just plain silly. I just passed on a 1950s Epiphone Century with a New York pickup which I could have snagged at a local auction for around $400 so a Magic 8 Ball would reply "Outlook Not So Good" when it comes to the question of whether I am ready to jump that broomstick again. Edited July 26 by zombywoof Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrairieDog Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 Please don’t smirk at my ignorance, a serious but naive question: What makes this a J200 rather than a dressy version of maple j-45? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave F Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 J200 Neck, Pickguard and Bridge plus the maple is standard J200. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave F Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 I sort of like it. The Pickguard looks too big for the body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave F Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 I recently got a J45 Custom Ebony. The thought was to dress it up like a Custom LP Black Beauty. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrairieDog Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 8 minutes ago, Dave F said: J200 Neck, Pickguard and Bridge plus the maple is standard J200. Thanks Dave, I figured you’d come through. I get the bridge might transfer differently, that makes sense. To push it just a bit, with tone-woods being equal, wouldn’t the body shape have a more direct effect though on the sound than the neck or the bridge? (I’ve always assumed pickguards are sorta immaterial sonically) Or does the J200 neck make for a markedly different playing experience than the 45? I’m seriously asking because I thought I wanted a j-45 because of the slope shoulder sound. My search waters are getting seriously muddied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave F Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 They may have made it a long scale like the J200 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scriv58 Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 Interesting- yet another expensive solution to a non-existent problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave F Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 6 minutes ago, scriv58 said: Interesting- yet another expensive solution to a non-existent problem That's where you're wrong. The problem was how could Gibson get us to spend our money for something we do not need. They were successful with me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearbasher Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 (edited) I went to their website. 5500 euros. 6 grand US for the "J200". I thought they would want more. Edited July 26 by gearbasher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinder Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 Sounds great but I can’t make myself like the modern sort of orange peel-y matt lacquer finishes Gibson are shooting these days. Makes everything look like the old Epi Masterbilt range from years ago. Some of the best guitars I’ve ever played have been maple J45s. I had a Maple AJ for several years which was astonishingly good. This guitar sounds like the best of both of those, and I quite like the 200 appointments. Pickguard could have been scaled down a touch perhaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scriv58 Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 3 hours ago, Dave F said: That's where you're wrong. The problem was how could Gibson get us to spend our money for something we do not need. They were successful with me. Not wrong for me- my 67 year old Gibson is enough to keep me from leaking precious funds. I can only play one at a time anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 (edited) 5 hours ago, Dave F said: J200 Neck, Pickguard and Bridge plus the maple is standard J200. So, it's a long scale guitar? Gibson, of course, turned out J45s sporting maple backs and rims in 1944 and 1945. Best guess though is they were laminate. Edited July 26 by zombywoof Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrairieDog Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 (edited) 40 minutes ago, zombywoof said: So, it's a long scale guitar? Gibson, of course, turned out J45s sporting maple backs and rims in 1944 and 1945. Best guess though is they were laminate. Apparently according to an older post I found here trying to figure this out, they also issued a limited number in 2016? of true maple j-45s. The poster bought it as their first guitar, just wanting a j-45 and not knowing what 1/75 meant, chuckle. I also found an old listing on google for at least one solid (supposedly) Banner, not laminate. Hence my head scratching as to the differences beyond the aesthetics. The neck explains it. Edited July 26 by PrairieDog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
62burst Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 4 hours ago, Jinder said: Sounds great but I can’t make myself like the modern sort of orange peel-y matt lacquer finishes Gibson are shooting these days. Makes everything look like the old Epi Masterbilt range from years ago. Some of the best guitars I’ve ever played have been maple J45s. I had a Maple AJ for several years which was astonishingly good. This guitar sounds like the best of both of those, and I quite like the 200 appointments. Pickguard could have been scaled down a touch perhaps. Agree-o. It seems like Gibson sensed that distressed finishes are all alike. But orange peel is the easiest to recreate, rather than 50 years of aging. And yes, I've found maple to be the liveliest incarnation of the the J-45. 1 hour ago, zombywoof said: So, it's a long scale guitar? Gibson, of course, turned out J45s sporting maple backs and rims in 1944 and 1945. Best guess though is they were laminate. It does look to be long scale, which, combined with the maple, would seem to move it much further away from the standard J-45 sound: https://www.tfoa.eu/en/shop/rs5557m2m0825-gibson-m2m-tfoa-limited-sj200-slope-shoulder-edition-sunburst-100122#attr=626788,626789,626790,626791,626792,626793,626794,626795,626796,626797,626798,626918,626828,626829,626830,626831,626832,626833,626834,626835,626836,552056,626837,626838,626839 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanCarlosVejar Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 If you know anything about country music history , you know this was Kitty Wells’ guitar : JC 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 How odd - like the tall king and his proud stallion merging into one. Helo ! That said it sounds tempting. A guitar it would be necessary to try in real life. Too weird for me to own it though. Good post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrairieDog Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 7 minutes ago, JuanCarlosVejar said: If you know anything about country music history , you know this was Kitty Wells’ guitar : JC Well, looky there! Great grab. Thanks for sharing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave F Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 Good find JC! I always associated her with the name on the fret board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scriv58 Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 Truthfully I would covet to own this guitar had I more days ahead of me than behind... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyearspickn Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 Would this "68 Gibson J45 slope shoulder SJ200" qualify as a ' Frankenstein' ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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