Guest Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 Heh...<giggle>... < snort>... ...he said..."unit" ..and Al's your uncle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkEpTiKaL Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 Just a heads up, next time try to include some details in the actual post, lol. But it's a good start. A lot of people love their China Epis. The EE serial has become a symbol of quality for some Epi players. I have a friend who has an EE '66 G400 with stock perfect action and nice sound. The best way to find out if you like a certain guitar is to try it out in a store, so I wouldn't bias just based on where it was made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 ?????? Electrics, Acoustics...WOMEN....what? Gong Li and Zhang Ziyi are nice! ;>) I don't (currently) own any, but I have played the masterbilt series acoustic guitars, and they're great! Not just at their "price point," but overall. But, especially, at their price point. Other's here, have various electrics, made in China, too. The overall feeling, based on what most have stated, is very positive! Why? Are you thinking of a purchase, that way? Oh, and by the way, Chinese women are HOT! ;>) CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakz Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 My Chinese Les Pauls are the finest Epis I've ever owned. Best Epiphones ever made in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloyDZeD Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 I love my SG and Dot. And they both have EE serial numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheX Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 I have a EE cherry dot that I absolutely love owning and playing. I played some other EE Epi's that left a lot to be desired. So far the majority of them that I personally played were as good as or better than the MIK's I've been playing for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 Heh...<giggle>... < snort>... ...he said..."unit" ..and Al's your uncle LOL! Sounds like something out of the first "Star Trek" movie... "Kirk Unit!" CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
es-295 Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 Yeah they make good guitars over there for commies. Well, actually they make good guitars period commies or not. Don't fight about my comments the commie comment was just for humor I suppose, was not serious but I am serious they make good guitars there but rather have a Korean guitar than Chinese guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 Well, you certainly DO like to put it out there, and then step (wallow) in it, don't you? Man, there are people here that view or post, from all over the world, so please...humor or not, "THINK" about what you're saying, once in awhile?! CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JefferySmith Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 My $400 Ibanez Artcore (so much thick red finish, I'm not sure that it's really made of wood), or the Eastman that's on its way to me in two weeks? The Eastmans are apparently made the way Gibsons were made 50 years ago. Narrow it down some. As a rule, I avoid anything Chinese unless I have a lot of good evidence that it isn't the worst-made thing available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
layboomo Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 LOL! Sounds like something out of the first "Star Trek" movie... "Kirk Unit!" CB I was expecting...."Nah they all suck" from our uncle Al.....LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funkwire Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 <----- Made in Qingdao in December '05. I absolutely love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 The Eastmans are apparently made the way Gibsons were made 50 years ago. Yeah, Svet can probably chime in, here, on "Eastmans!" What say you Svet?! CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelodyMaker1 Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 My Standard stacks up pretty well against some so-called better made guitars. But, I also own a Ibanez Artcore thats not so hot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muskank Sally Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 The Eastmans are apparently made the way Gibsons were made 50 years ago. The EE Serialed Epiphones are closer to what Gibson was making in the 70's and 80's. Give these guitars a chance to age and this may be considered the most memorable era of production ever for Epiphone. The Gibson Qingdao plant is proprietary Gibson for Epiphone. you don't get any closer to the real thing. Here is my Gibson with an Epiphone Headstock. That's the way she feels' date=' That's the way she plays. As close to the real thing as it gets. [img']http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h312/bobbydamm/LP%20Plus/WhiskeysOfSpring2008043.jpg[/img] Top photo shows after Dimarzio Super Distortion added to bridge. '57+ stock bridge pickup was decapped and moved to the neck. These Grover tuners are the best I have ever used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fingers hurt Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 OK here we go here are some details : Went looking for an axe to keep with me while I'm on the road working . I have an Elitist Casino thats in the pawn shop YUCK and had an Elitist Dot and another Casino that had to go .Couldn't sell a kidney at the time . So I went looking for a hollow body at guitar mart and came across nothing but "EE " And "DW" made units . Couldn't hold a tune ,didn't feel right , couldn't justify the cost . If I didn't see the serial number or the made in china sticker they would still be able to have that " not right feel " to them . The 2 Sheratan (sp?) From "U" Korea held the tune ,played the cords without the slight out of tune wobble and felt good too . Am I being to picky ? I know the China operation is new to Epiphone but it seems .... well not Korian and definitely not Elitist level build quality . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 OK here we go here are some details : Went looking for an axe to keep with me while I'm on the road working . I have an Elitist Casino thats in the pawn shop YUCK and had an Elitist Dot and another Casino that had to go. "YUCK" as in, you're sorry it's in the Pawn shop, or YUCK...you didn't like it?! "Elitist" versions are as good as anything made, with obvious allowances for the "poly" finishes. And, even so, some prefer the poly finish, to Nitro. So... If you don't like Elitist versions, I'd say...yeah, you're being too picky! But, if you do, then possibly you need to stick with those? Only you, can be the real judge, there! The "Quing Dao" versions, are generally very good/excellent! So, maybe you got hold of a few "less wonderful" ones? I don't know... But, they are improving, all the time, as things settle in. CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JefferySmith Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 The EE Serialed Epiphones are closer to what Gibson was making in the 70's and 80's. When people complain that they didn't buy real estate in the 1960's, I bemoan not buying Epiphones (and keeping) in the 1960's. My Texan had a much better fit and finish than my Gibson 335. And my two Epiphone Elite/Elitist Byrdlands (recent) are far nicer in fit and finish than the 1960's 335. Sorry, but too much of Gibson is its name and the fact that it holds its value. It's not the same difference as a German Leica camera and a Japanese Zeiss camera. The former is in a completely different class than the latter build-wise. The only Gibson that I will always have my eye on is the top of the line Les Paul Studio in root beer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JefferySmith Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 Some surprisingly good Les Paul clones are made in the Korean Agile factory. The top of the line is about $379 (Rondomusic may be the only place who sells them in the USA). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fingers hurt Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 YUCK as in its in a pawn shop 3 time zones away and I keep a close watch on the ticket legalities. Ive asked about shipping from the pawn shop but Packing , crating around , temp changes , things like that . Its safe where it is right now . To me its a family keeper to be willed out to next of kin . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 "Leica" owner, are we, Jeffery? Me too! Old and new! Great cameras! And, I happen to agree with you, on some of the newer Epi's (especially "Elitist") compared to new or old "Gibson!" Gibson did/do make some really fine instruments, then and now! But, to the cost differential....Sorry, I just don't think so....woods, Nitro, VOS, and all. I truly think Epi's are about as good as you can get, given their price range, especially. And, I LOVE Gibson's, too! But, if you can't comfortably spend that kind of "coin," Epi's are more than a good alternative...IMHO! CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JefferySmith Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 Am I being to picky? I've never met an Elite/Elitist that I didn't like. I think the Koreans are right now where the Japanese were 20 years ago, and the Japanese 20 years ago were ahead of the Americans (attention to detail, you know). Hyundais used to be pretty lousy, but they now have the confidence to offer enormous bumper to bumper warranties. And their reliability is getting up to Japanese standards. I'd be willing to bet that Elitists will be moved to Korean manufacture, but don't panic. Pentax and Rollei starting making cameras in Singapore in the 1970's, and as long as the factories are supervised, the product will deliver. It just won't be as cheap as a typical Korean guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 Yeah, I have a strong feeling, that an Elitist Casino (Ahla Naturelle), is going to be in my future! Love 'em! CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluelake07 Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 When it comes to spending hundreds or thousands of dollars on a guitar, I would prefer my money went to Japan, South Korea, Mexico or the good 'ol USA rather than China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 When it comes to spending hundreds or thousands of dollars on a guitar' date=' I would prefer my money went to Japan, South Korea, Mexico or the good 'ol USA rather than China. [/quote'] Yeah, but most of the profit, goes to Gibson/Epiphone USA! The salaries, expenses, building rent (when applicable), and a percentage, goes to the companies in the country of origin, I'm sure. But, Gibson USA does just fine, I can' assure you. Otherwise they'd get out of that market, altogether, I'd guess... CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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