Doth Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Hello Guys, Saw this in a new guitar mag. I don't think I am into it, but wondered if anybody here was. http://epiphone.com/default.asp?ProductID=323&CollectionID=19 Doth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doth Posted November 2, 2009 Author Share Posted November 2, 2009 Hey Peter, What model is that? Doth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman345 Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 I wonder if it can be used as a shovel to dig that there grave... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3 Chord Hippie Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Not for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender 4 Life Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Not for me. Me either...............I think they're aiming this one at the 9-19 yr. old crowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larens Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Me either...............I think they're aiming this one at the 9-19 yr. old crowd. OOOOhhhhhh Scary!!! It's one of those "I just hit puberty and this guitar will be such a help in my messing with my parents' head with my dead obsession thing and make me the coolest zombie-wannabe at my middle school at the same time...where's my black nail varnish?..." Epiphone. Get a clue. Stop pandering to adolescents with this nonsense' date=' to fan boys with endless endorsed guitars, and to vintage guitar owner wannabes with "inspired by" crap that possess just enough minutiae to sell at ridiculously inflated prices what are otherwise stock Chinese models (the "upgrades" you tout should be there in the first place) and bring to market some straight forward guitars (preferably made somewhere besides China because they're really only good at making things that [b']appear[/b] as if they possess quality) from quality components. You can even continue making the traditional Epiphone models and Gibson knock-offs but make them with something tangible and inherent within them and not the smoke and mirrors that draw people in with an apparent vintage vibe only to have that facade dissolve with any close scrutiny. No amount of marketing/sales spiel visits from Epi1 is going to change what Epiphone owners all eventually discover...they look a lot better from the outside than they actually are on the inside. You made some great guitars in Korea...China? Not so much. Sorry to rant but I see this crap from Epiphone as they bumble along looking for somewhere to get market share while holding their margin and the stuff they come up with makes me cringe. Larens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad1 Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 OOOOhhhhhh Scary!!! It's one of those "I just hit puberty and this guitar will be such a help in my messing with my parents' head with my dead obsession thing and make me the coolest zombie-wannabe at my middle school at the same time...where's my black nail varnish?..." Epiphone. Get a clue. Stop pandering to adolescents with this nonsense' date=' to fan boys with endless endorsed guitars, and to vintage guitar owner wannabes with "inspired by" crap that possess just enough minutiae to sell at ridiculously inflated prices what are otherwise stock [b']Chinese models (the "upgrades" you tout should be there in the first place) and bring to market some straight forward guitars (preferably made somewhere besides China because they're really only good at making things that appear as if they possess quality) from quality components. You can even continue making the traditional Epiphone models and Gibson knock-offs but make them with something tangible and inherent within them and not the smoke and mirrors that draw people in with an apparent vintage vibe only to have that facade dissolve with any close scrutiny. No amount of marketing/sales spiel visits from Epi1 is going to change what Epiphone owners all eventually discover...they look a lot better from the outside than they actually are on the inside. You made some great guitars in Korea...China? Not so much[/b]. Sorry to rant but I see this crap from Epiphone as they bumble along looking for somewhere to get market share while holding their margin and the stuff they come up with makes me cringe. Larens I have 4 Epis. An SG Jr. from Indonesia, an LP from Korea, and an SG G400 and a Dot from China (QingDao). The two from China are much better built guitars. So I don't think you are correct at all in making your claim about China. The Qing Dao factory is putting out some of the nicest looking, and best built guitars that Epiphone has ever made outside this country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larens Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 I have 4 Epis. An SG Jr. from Indonesia' date=' an LP from Korea, and an SG G400 and a Dot from China (QingDao).The two from China are much better built guitars. So I don't think you are correct at all in making your claim about China. [b']The Qing Dao factory is putting out some of the nicest looking, and best built guitars that Epiphone has ever made outside this country. [/b] Well, then I am pleased for you and your satisfaction with those products but we all have differing perceptions of quality and thresholds of satisfaction and I have yet to see anything from China I'd even let follow me home and there seems to be more than a few people on this forum who don't happen to share your complete contentment. But...as long as you personally are pleased, that's all that matters. Larens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midiman56 Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Larens ... nobody likes a gear snob! If you don't like 'em ... don't buy 'em. Voting with your wallet is the most effective way of letting any company know when they are straying off the path ... Same goes for all of this whacky Zakk Wylde crap. Epiphone can build whatever they want. I've never seen any of this stuff in person at a music store, so I have a feeling they are just testing the waters with a very limited production run for sale by the on-line dealers. They are making plenty of the classic stuff too: '59 LP's, 60's Tribute LP's, JL Inspired Casinos, Emperor Swingsters, etc, etc, etc ... In fact, besides Fender (just about everything they build is based on a 50+ year old design!), no one is building more "classics" that Gibson/Epiphone. Everyone wants more quality, more this and more that ... and then pisses and moans about the price! Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman345 Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Bender 4 Life wrote: Me either...............I think they're aiming this one at the 9-19 yr. old crowd. OOOOhhhhhh Scary!!! It's one of those "I just hit puberty and this guitar will be such a help in my messing with my parents' head with my dead obsession thing and make me the coolest zombie-wannabe at my middle school at the same time...where's my black nail varnish?..." Epiphone. Get a clue. Stop pandering to adolescents with this nonsense' date=' to fan boys with endless endorsed guitars...Larens[/quote'] I think that maybe Epiphone has to bend over backward to please some of these primadonna endorsers, or else they might jump ship and go elsewhere. Here is a good example: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icantbuyafender Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 I hope that's a fake pic of slash. as for the graveyard desciple.... the SG-V thing was hideous enough... now they build him a coffin shaped guitar? He's a grown-*** man playing ridiculous guitars. I guess some just dont grow up... I'm really surprised zakk doesn't play those trailer-home shaped guitars epiphone made a while back... ya might be a redneck if...... if he wasn't a great guitar player this would all be a bit tooooo ridiculous. I guess coffins are pretty 'metal. I wonder if he puts his in a coffin case! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinTheHood Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 I think that Z-1 Acoustic is pretty sweet. I just dont know why they had to attach Zakk's name to it and ruin it with that ridiculous buzzsaw graphic. I would think that guitar could speak for itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicester35 Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Hideous. And yet...similar shapes have appeared less revolting in their execution: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricochet Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 It's a rip off of a Schecter Custom shop model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinTheHood Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 It's a rip off of a Schecter Custom shop model. So....all of Zakk's "designs" are just rip-offs from Dean and Schecter? I wonder who he steals his riffage from... ziiiiiing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSDx Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 No amount of marketing/sales spiel visits from Epi1 is going to change what Epiphone owners all eventually discover...they look a lot better from the outside than they actually are on the inside. Kinda like US autos' date=' eh ???[razz'] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doth Posted November 3, 2009 Author Share Posted November 3, 2009 I have a Schecter C1 Classic that is an incredible guitar. Set up very well, with SD P'up, Jazz up front, JB in back, and the ability to coil tap. I had it set up and the frets dressed, and it is the best guitar I have ever played hands down. I don't necessarily think the country of origin is always an indication of the quality of instrument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EpiEric Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 It's a rip off of a Schecter Custom shop model. I like how the finish is listed as "Dug Out From Dirt"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman345 Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 This is ol' Hank at Zakk Wylde's Hellfire Halloween Bash. It looks like he got so excited holding the Graveyard Disciple that he wet himself...:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonzoboy Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 I must say I can't agree 100% with Larens.I have 25 guitars of assorted vintages and quality,among them are a MIC Casino,MIC G400 Custom and a MIC EJ160E John Lennon and I am very impressed with the level of quality in all of them.Maybe Larens has come across some bad examples as quality control is not a forte of some MIC guitars but as I said I am quite satisfied with the sound,playability and build quality of my MIC Epis.I must agree that I get turned off by this pandering to the whims of some "rock stars" and the over abundance of reliced and over priced "exact to the slightest ding or cigarette burn" guitars as they serve no purpose other than bring in exorbitant profits for the companies making them.That being said I just adore my 65 John Lennon Casino as it was made to the specs of the original but I wouldn't have gone near it if it was reliced down to the belt buckle scratches etc. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie Nazarenie Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 i don't like it! it's satanic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniak Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 Think that guitar should be buried and you could use one of those Gbson Upside down Flying V's to dig the hole.,,what ARE they smokin??? MY Noisemakers: Epiphone 2008 Sg Custom Prophecy GX Epiphone 2003 Korina G-400 Sg Epiphone 1998 Korina Explorer Epiphone 1998 Korina Flying V BC Rich 1981 Maple Mockingbird Handmade Ibanez 1976 Stratocaster Gibson 1968 Les Paul Custom Charvel Fretless Bass Washburn Lyon P bass Guild Madiera P-600 Jumbo Acoustic Applause A-25 Acoustic Chuan Yin Marina Mark 20SS classical Carlo Robelli 5 string Banjo Carlo Robelli Electric Violin Kay Electric Mandolin Lignatone Mandolin Midiman Radium Keyboard 2 Marshall JTM-612 60 watt 1 12 Combos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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