shawntmartin Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Without being biased, without "brand loyality", can you guys give me an honest answer on what type of Les Paul style guitar is just an all around better guitar...wood, craftsmanship, electronics, neck...ect ect ect... 1. Black Beauty (Japan) 2. Ibanez ART300 (Indonesia) (Active pickups and won Guitar of the Year at the 2009 Music and Sound Awards.) I know this is an Epiphone forum, but I'll bet most of us HAVE owned or currently own other brands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JefferySmith Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 I've never handled the Ibanez ART300, but a Black Beauty made in Japan should be excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peeper Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 If you want an Ibanez you need to get an old one. All new Ibbys are hunks of junk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangbang Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Thanks for the Info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawntmartin Posted December 4, 2009 Author Share Posted December 4, 2009 The ART300 supposedly got the Guitar of the Year award so do have any proof to go along with the ART300 being a "hunk of junk" (since its a new Ibby). I'm not implying you are wrong, I'm just confused on why it would get such an award if it were junk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strumbone Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Shawn, the older Artist series Ibby's are very nice. These will have the "Crafted in Japan" on the back of the headstock. Artist Series Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianh Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Artist series Ibis are one of the more sought after closet collectibles out there. They're similar to the Epi Genesis that I collect in that they're solid mahogany, and heavy as hell. But they look fantastic, sustain for years, and have all the attributes of the high-quality, older Japanese-made classics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungrycat Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 If you want an Ibanez you need to get an old one. All new Ibbys are hunks of junk. The RG based models (RGs, JEMs, ect..) are crap, but I've never seen a bad Artcore. And they're suppose to but putting out a new set neck Iceman.(One word: AWESOME!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peeper Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Just go play a hundred old Ibanez's, then play a hundred new ones, then you'll know how bad the new ones suck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbbysB4Epis Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Just go play a hundred old Ibanez's' date=' then play a hundred new ones, then you'll know how bad the new ones suck![/quote'] Yeah they do, that's why Notes bought Leilani the new Ibanez of her choice for her birthday. Aren't they professional musicians? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordy01 Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 This whole thread is an arguement in the making. We all have to hold and play a guitar for us to form an opinion. We all have different hands, and ears. We all play different music at different volumes. What works for one, won't for another. I like my Epi les Paul. I played a few other brands, but the Epi simply felt, played, and sounded better to me. I played Gibsons in the same room, through the same amp and didn't think the difference in sound (small in my opinion) was worth the extra 2000 bucks. Go and play the guitar. Don't worry about other people's opinions. Make whatever you choose, your guitar. Any gear can be swapped out, or improved if necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peeper Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 A few from my collection, I don't have one of them anymore, care to guess which one?? Good Ibby 1989 RG750--- Good Ibby 1976 Custom--- Bad Ibby 2006 RG crapola-- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonzoboy Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 I was in my usual guitar store on Thurs. and saw the prettiest Les Paul I've ever seen it was MIJ or MIK and had a bookmatched flamed maple top and it was only $850 I want it! ---------------------------------------------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSDx Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Love the top on that .... kinda like an Alligatorburst' date=' or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxHart85231281734137 Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Yeah they do' date=' that's why Notes bought Leilani the new Ibanez of her choice for her birthday. Aren't they professional musicians? [/quote'] Umm thats an acoustic w/nylons totally different world there buddy, but I can tell by your name what your pulling for.........id say screw both of those and look for a used Gibby LP worn, or studio for a good price...the black beauty in my opinion is waaaayyy to much to pay for a non elitis epi, you could get a Gibby sg fadded fot that and install another pup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EpiphonePlayer Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 I would say the black beauty because i'm not huge on active pickups and from what i've heard new ibanez are bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewddawg1 Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 I have a 2007 Ibby xpt 700 and i would put it up against any of your Epi's & Fenders except the Prophecy. It has neck thru body, DiMarzio pups and Floyd rose style trem. It sustains forever, holds up under the heaviest of distortion and never goes out of tune. Play em all and buy what feels, plays and sounds right to you after all it's you that has to be happy not us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figstrum Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 I think you will need a 9V battery for the active pups in the Ibanez. It all depends on what sound you are looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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