EVOL! Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 If advanced beings from a distant universe had been watching us earthlings for lets say about the last 3000 years, I'll bet they're terrified of us... Their front row seat of watching us earthlings torcher each other since the beginning of "civilization," has to make any extraterrestrial life form stay clear of our destructive nature. OK, I'll give you this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverside Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGoi1MSGu64&feature=related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVOL! Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 If aliens come and certainly we must assume they are of higher intelligence, why would they enslave us? Doesn't higher intellect assure compassion for all universal beings. To enslave, pillage and destroy would put them on the same level as stupid capitalist Americans. I feel the same way as Stephen Hawking: If an alien race makes it to earth they most certainly will be - light years more advanced than us - looking for other planets because they ruined their own through war or abuse of resources. Just like talent does not equal taste, higher intellect does not equal compassion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackie Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Well I am all for the melding of the brain with hardware.........but the solo's ....naw I ain't goin out like dat.....I am going to enroll in some hybrid human computer experimental project.........the transfer of consciousness will be achieved thus eternal life will be attained.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoConMan Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Just like talent does not equal taste, higher intellect does not equal compassion. Amen Brother! (For the sake of disclosure, Evol and I occupy polar opposite ends of the ideology spectrum but evidently both still see truth.) B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketman Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 They should get that Professor BarnHardt guy--he knew how to talk to aliens. My technical great-grandfather (i.e, my Ph.D. advisor advisor's advisor) wrote the actual equations on Professor Barnhardt's blackboard. His name was Dr. Samuel Herrick and he consulted on the 1951 movie. He actually coached Michael Rennie, the actor who played Klaatu, what to write on the board. I have a picture of Herrick teaching Rennie. The equations are real orbital dynamics equations and you can see Herrick's flavor in them. Here's the picture. Herrick is on the left. BTW, I'd like to have a mathematical discussion with an alien... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmurray Posted September 27, 2010 Author Share Posted September 27, 2010 BTW, I'd like to have a mathematical discussion with an alien... +1 That's one of the things I love about Mathematics - it's universal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freak show Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Well, it certainly is a relief to know that UN funds are being spent wisely... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookieman15061 Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 I feel the same way as Stephen Hawking: If an alien race makes it to earth they most certainly will be - light years more advanced than us - looking for other planets because they ruined their own through war or abuse of resources. Just like talent does not equal taste, higher intellect does not equal compassion. yeah I was just coloring with sarcasm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badbluesplayer Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 +1 That's one of the things I love about Mathematics - it's universal. Yeah, but what happens if math changes as a function of time out there? Maybe math is another dimension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVOL! Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Amen Brother! (For the sake of disclosure, Evol and I occupy polar opposite ends of the ideology spectrum but evidently both still see truth.) B) Some truths are universal, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmurray Posted September 27, 2010 Author Share Posted September 27, 2010 Yeah, but what happens if math changes as a function of time out there? Maybe math is another dimension. That's deep, man :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartsPvt Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortcon Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Mel Gibson and Joaquin Phoenix already made first contact, there was a documentary that come out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golem Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 ` While I'm not in favor of the UN just turning out the lights going outa bidnez ... being as they are all we've got ... for better or worse ... I really can't see asking them to take on such a pointless extra project when they can barely manage a half-baked facade of their more important roles. The UN cites "recent discovery" of many more planets orbiting many more stars than were previously estimated as increasing the likelihood of contact ... Duh uh-uhhh ! Now THAT is major stoopididitty. Those planets were all there before we "discovered" them .... and haven't much bothered to drop by for high tea. Oh !! Maybe they saw all the human eyeballs now peeking at them and figured "Well, we better get over there and give the earthlings a closer look at us ! " How neighborly of our friends only a few billion light years away. Maybe we can jam out ! ----------------------------------------- BTW, speaking of light years ..... if our jam mates are, say 500,000,000 light years away, and if we've only just recently "discovered" them, that means the evidence of their existence is 500,000,000 EARTH YEARS out of date. They could be extinct, extinct before earthlings ever crawled outa the muck onto the beach. And that means, if you bleeb in StarTrek-style Warp Speed travel [faster than light] ..... then our new-found 500,000,000 years extinct jam mates just might NOT be extinct at all .... maybe they are US, and you are them, and we are all together with Paul the Walrus ? If WE left that place 500,000,000 earth years ago to arrive hear at Warp Factor [pick a number], then we are just 'jet-lagged' and are looking back at ourselves before we left our previous home ..... cuz even if we recklessly drove here at Warp 9, the light and radio waves that today show us our former home have been leisurely cruising toward earth at Warp 1, so we "in person" got here long before the evidence of our previous existence [place of departure] got here. I mean, just do the math ! I am NOT making this up ! This is why science fiction writers, be it HG Wells or DC Comix, will always connect Time Travel to some scheme for Exceeding The Speed of Light. ` Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjlandry Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 I'm with NeoCon (I'm a "neo-con" too). I would love to see the UN collapse like the worthless house of cards that it is. The best thing about the UN is that those blue helmets make such perfect targets for iron sights! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketman Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Say we were gonna travel at the speed of light - 186,000 miles per second, right? If the human body could sustain 10 G's for a prolonged period of time - it can't, but... At the acceleration rate that would expose us to 10 G's how long would it take us to get up to 670 million mph? 1 g = 32 ft/sec^2 = (32 ft/sec^2) * (1 mile/5280 ft) * (3600 sec/hour)^2 = 78,545 mile/hr^2 10 g's would be 785,450 mile/hr^2. To get how many hours it would take to reach 670 million mph we take 670*1e8/785450, which equals 85,301 hours, which is equivalent to 9.73 years. Time is not the problem obviously. The idea of "warping" is to warp space around by introducing a lot of mass (e.g., a black hole). This will make the space between two points "shorter" so you don't need to go that fast. But we obviously don't have a black hole near us... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jantha Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 But we obviously don't have a black hole near us... Yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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