S t e v e Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 zappa gets owned! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iIDhdIJP6c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZenKen Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 zappa gets owned! Speed isn't everything Steve. And while I appreciated both players, I liked Zappa playing better (maybe it's the SG). B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Natural Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 Whadda ya mean, "zappa gets owned"? It's not a "duel"; it's a duet. It's not a competition. It's a guitar "conversation". And my opinion?...these guys are entertainers. Entertainment is for the people. And I think that with most people, the name "Zappa" will register before the name "Vai". But, hey; to each his own. I'm glad you posted this. I enjoyed it. It's a nice break from the Cowboys/Texans game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeVeeWee Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 Speed isn't everything Steve. And while I appreciated both players, I liked Zappa playing better (maybe it's the SG). B) Couldn't have said it better! Dweezil's guitars sings, Steve's likes to be punished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S t e v e Posted September 26, 2010 Author Share Posted September 26, 2010 woah calm down kids! you take it too seriously p.s vai and moore own everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S t e v e Posted September 26, 2010 Author Share Posted September 26, 2010 Speed isn't everything Steve. i agree, you misunderstood me...forget the technique but zappa was well out of his depth there and he new it... just my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S t e v e Posted September 26, 2010 Author Share Posted September 26, 2010 I think that with most people, the name "Zappa" will register before the name "Vai". what has a name got to do with it? oh you mean living off his dads reputation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff-7 Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 This is going places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZenKen Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 i agree, you misunderstood me...forget the technique but zappa was well out of his depth there and he new it... just my opinion I don't think I misunderstood. What I'd like to know is why does someone always have to be better than somebody else with you Steve? This is art not sports. They were both great as was the guy playing the Les Paul, the saxophonist and the 2 drummers. Or did you think one drummer was better than the other??????? B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Natural Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 ...p.s vai and moore own everyone "moore" who? You know, Steve, it's a shame you don't respect either of these gentlemen enough to capitalize the first letter of either of their names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S t e v e Posted September 26, 2010 Author Share Posted September 26, 2010 I don't think I misunderstood. What I'd like to know is why does someone always have to be better than somebody else with you Steve? because as human beings it's natural to want to be better than the next person, it goes back to the caveman days FACT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S t e v e Posted September 26, 2010 Author Share Posted September 26, 2010 "moore" who? You know, Steve, it's a shame you don't respect either of these gentlemen enough to capitalize the first letter of either of their names. mr n, a lot of my comments are made with my tounge firmly in my cheek i mean no harm B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jantha Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 I think the sax player owned all of them. I enjoyed that.. thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WahKeen Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 i agree, you misunderstood me...forget the technique but zappa was well out of his depth there and he new it... just my opinion Zappa was not out of his depth one bit. They both had pretty tasty stuff going on. And this isn't an appologetic for anyone. The way I saw it, no one was "better" than the other. They were both "on". Some opinions are more agreeable than others. Some opinions are really stinky.... I mean if it was dem00n and Zappa, I'd probably agree, but I wouldn't use words like "owned". That's so jr. high. Zappa stood toe to toe and he is obviously a very good player. Underrated? Oh, oh... smells like an old thread. I enjoyed it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigKahune Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 Nice duet. Zappa clearly had the better guitar. Steve who? . . . . And who is the moore guy you keep talkin about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoConMan Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 How about Dweezil Zappa and Don Johnson? (Yes, that Don Johnson - from Miami Vice) Solo starts at about 2:40 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULI5kolBpAk Found out later that Zappa didn't even play, but was featured in the video. Took me a few years to get past his MTV "professional celebrity" bullsh!t and give him any musical credibility. When I met Mark Kendall (guitarist for Great White) I asked him where he got his custom Hamer. He smiled, gave me the oddest look, paused, and said "Dweezil Zappa gave me that guitar." Went on to tell me that Zappa did indeed inherit some licks and smarts from his dad. Not knowing myself, I'll just have to believe that what many people say about him might be true. I was never a Zappa fan originally, and Dweezil hasn't done anything to thrill me, but I'll give him his due. (To be completely honest, I was never a huge Vai fan either.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZenKen Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 The real mystery is why Don didn't get recognized as one of the great front-men by Gibson...... B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Californiaman Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 Steve, why must you take something beautiful like that composition and turn it into a competition? It's music. It's not "Gee, lets see who's the better guitarists." Two very skilled players using a call and response technique. Sometimes Vai overplays. It's not how many notes you can cram into a solo, it's how it's crafted. Zappa did a great job. If you were half the player he was... well you might be getting more gigs. Just saying. Nice post by the way. I loved that video. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recsec Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 Remarkable playing by the Whole Band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHO Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 what has a name got to do with it? oh you mean living off his dads reputation? I guess he does make a living off his dads name in a way, but honestly - the ZPZ band is probably the best Zappa experience you're going to get these days, along with Enseble Modern for the more serious stuff. Dweezil has put a lot of work into getting it going and they do it incredibly well. And they don't just copy either, they add their own feel to the music. I think if Dweezil just wanted to cash in on his dad's name and music he'd just call up a bunch of old Mothers and what not and put a band together. It probably wouldn't be too difficult, and would guarantee even more interest from the fans than going out and auditioning people who were more or less total nobodies. Ok, so he did bring Steve, Napoleon and Terry for the first tour, but I think that was more as a safety net, not knowing before hand how the interest would be. As far as I know they tour with just the band these days. I really think it is a labour of love for Dweezil, and I'm glad he's doing it. I'm hoping to be able to score some tickets to go see them again in November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Now, now, Steve. You are being a bit naughty posting stuff like this! LOL! Clearly they are both very talented musicians. Neither 'owned' the other. I rather suspect they both rate each other's playing highly; otherwise why would they play together? Steve; would you say Gary Moore 'owned' either B.B. King or Albert Collins when they guested with him? And do you think GM asked both of them to guest with him so he could 'best' them both in some undisclosed competition? (FWIW ; I, too, preferred Zappa's playing.) Good clip! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveinspain Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Enjoyed that, thanks for posting it... I can only dream of being as talented as any of those musicians but I enjoyed them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bill Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 I enjoyed that video too, that SG sounded sweet. Steve, you better be careful with some of these posts. You might have to trade in your Lester for one of these: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S t e v e Posted September 27, 2010 Author Share Posted September 27, 2010 I enjoyed that video too, that SG sounded sweet. Steve, you better be careful with some of these posts. You might have to trade in your Lester for one of these: , people get upset too quickly...by comments made by some fat bald bloke on the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shnate McDuanus Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 I liked the video. I thought Steve and Dweezil both played up a veritable storm. What's this about one guitarist owning the other? FWIW, either one of them outplays me by a long shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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