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I looked at a screen shot of tonight's weather and saw an example of the effect. The storm in the southern hemisphere is rotating clockwise and the northern hemisphere storm counter clockwise, just like it is supposed to do. Kinda cool.

Borealiseffect.jpg

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GEEK ALERT!

 

[woot]

 

 

I too am fascinated by weather phenomena. =D>

 

LOL! Major GEEK alert (or maybe eeek alert) smiley-signs093.gif(talking about myself)

 

What's the intertropical convergence zone anyway, the equatorial region between the tropics of cancer and capricorn? Please don't do the "let me google it for you" thing! [biggrin]

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Lifelong weatherbug myself.

Coriolois effect works for sink/bathtub drains too.

 

Carry on... [thumbup]

 

 

I actually tried to demonstrate it to my son on a flight from Miami to South Africa by taking him to the plane bathroom and filling up the sink and draining it just before the equator, at the equator and then just south. How's that for a nerdy thing to do? I couldn't get it to work. Did work once on ground though.

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Lifelong weatherbug myself.

Coriolois effect works for sink/bathtub drains too.

 

Carry on... [thumbup]

 

And I just thought that was gas. [tongue]

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Coriolois effect works for sink/bathtub drains too.

 

 

There's more than a little controversy about that. The earth revolves so slowly that the Coriolis force is considered to be irrelevant in comparison to other factors such a the conservation of angular momentum in so far as how your basin drains.

 

Here's a discussion:

 

Bad Coriolis?

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Yep Riverside is right. When I was working at NASA we geeks actually calculated that friction plays more of a role than the Coriolis acceleration for drains. But for spacecraft one should never neglect the acceleration due to Coriolis.

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Can't neglect it for gyroscopic precession in navigational instruments either, eh?

 

 

Never been south of the equator myself, so I'll defer to any experts... [thumbup]

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Can't neglect it for gyroscopic precession in navigational instruments either, eh?

 

 

Never been south of the equator myself, so I'll defer to any experts... [thumbup]

 

Lucky to have been in the southern hemisphere a few times. Watched a toilet drain in New Zealand. There was a point of reference. Definitely clockwise.

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I actually tried to demonstrate it to my son on a flight from Miami to South Africa by taking him to the plane bathroom and filling up the sink and draining it just before the equator, at the equator and then just south. How's that for a nerdy thing to do? I couldn't get it to work. Did work once on ground though.

 

The plane is moving AND the earth is too, thats why it flunked the test.... Ground based; only the earth is moving.....most of the time [scared]

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The plane is moving AND the earth is too, thats why it flunked the test.... Ground based; only the earth is moving.....most of the time [scared]

 

I think you're right and I'm sure the other passengers thought I was a freak.

What inspired the experiment was a story told to me by a friend (who has since said the story was embellished - read made up) where he went to Africa on the equator and saw a demo by a man who had a glass bowl with water containing beads. On the north side of the equator the water drained out CCW and on the south side CW and on the equator itself, it just drained straight down....So I thought hell, it can be demonstrated as long as I know exactly when we were over the equator which the pilot said he would announce.

At least it helped pass some of the 15 hour flight time.smiley-toilet05.gif

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Just wanted to bath in the spirit of weather geakage.

 

From NOAA:

MODERATE TO STRONG LA NINA CONDITIONS CONTINUE IN THE TROPICAL PACIFIC OCEAN.

SEA SURFACE TEMPERATURES (SSTS) IN THE EQUATORIAL PACIFIC OCEAN ARE BELOW

AVERAGE FROM AROUND 160E TO THE SOUTH AMERICAN COAST, WITH SSTS BETWEEN 1 AND 3

DEGREES C BELOW NORMAL IN MOST AREAS. THIS VERY LARGE AREA OF ANOMALOUSLY COOL

SSTS HAS SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE LARGE SCALE ATMOSPHERIC CIRCULATION

THROUGHOUT THE TROPICAL PACIFIC REGION, WHICH, IN TURN, IS EXPECTED TO

CONSIDERABLY INFLUENCE THE MEAN ATMOSPHERIC CIRCULATION PATTERNS OVER NORTH

AMERICA. SUB-SURFACE OCEAN TEMPERATURES ARE ALSO WELL BELOW AVERAGE IN THE

EQUATORIAL EAST-CENTRAL PACIFIC TO OVER 200 METERS DEPTH, STRONGLY FAVORING A

CONTINUATION OF LA NINA CONDITIONS INTO AT LEAST THE SPRING OF 2011. FORECASTS

FROM MOST SST PREDICTION MODELS SUPPORT THIS CONCLUSION, WITH SST ANOMALIES

PREDICTED TO GRADUALLY DIMINISH INTO THE EARLY SUMMER MONTHS.

 

THE TEMPERATURE OUTLOOK FOR FMA 2011 REFLECTS TYPICAL LATE WINTER LA NINA

CONDITIONS AND FAVORS BELOW AVERAGE TEMPERATURES OVER CENTRAL AND SOUTHERN

ALASKA, ALONG THE NORTHERN TIER OF THE CONUS FROM WASHINGTON AND OREGON

EASTWARD ACROSS THE NORTHERN ROCKIES TO THE UPPER GREAT LAKES REGION, AND ALONG

THE ENTIRE WEST COAST. THE CHANCES FOR ABOVE AVERAGE MEAN TEMPERATURES ARE

ENHANCED FROM THE INTERIOR SOUTHWEST AND SOUTHERN ROCKIES TO THE CENTRAL GULF

COAST STATES.

 

THE SEASONAL PRECIPITATION OUTLOOK FOR FMA 2011 FAVORS ABOVE-MEDIAN

PRECIPITATION FROM THE INTERIOR PACIFIC NORTHWEST EASTWARD ACROSS THE NORTHERN

ROCKIES INTO THE NORTHERN PLAINS. ABOVE MEDIAN PRECIPITATION AMOUNTS ARE ALSO

FAVORED FROM PARTS OF THE CENTRAL MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AND TENNESSEE VALLEY

NORTHEASTWARD THROUGH THE CENTRAL AND EASTERN GREAT LAKES AND THE INTERIOR

NORTHEAST. THE CHANCES OF BELOW-MEDIAN PRECIPITATION AMOUNTS ARE ENHANCED FROM

CENTRAL AND SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA EASTWARD THROUGH THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THE

ROCKIES, THE CENTRAL PLAINS AND MUCH OF THE SOUTHERN PLAINS, CONTINUING

EASTWARD ACROSS THE GULF COAST STATES AND SOUTHERN ATLANTIC COAST STATES. THE

CHANCES OF BELOW-MEDIAN PRECIPITATION AMOUNTS ARE ALSO ENHANCED ACROSS SOUTHERN

ALASKA, FROM KODIAK ISLAND TO THE NORTHERN PANHANDLE REGION, BASED ON LA NINA

COMPOSITES AND CFS FORECASTS. THIS OVERALL PRECIPITATION PATTERN REFLECTS THE

WEAKER THAN AVERAGE SOUTHERN UPPER LEVEL JET STREAM TOGETHER WITH AN ACTIVE

NORTHERN JET THAT IS USUALLY OBSERVED IN LA NINA WINTERS.

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Thanks Californiaman. I can never keep El nino and La nina straight. Quite a wild bunch of weather for both hemispheres lately.

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The storm in the southern hemisphere has become cyclone yasi and is threatening already water logged Queensland:

Cyclone.jpg

 

Sorry to revive this. I know it's rude to bring back your own thread but I thought enquiring minds wanted to know.

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Coriolis . . . isn't that the small protrusion and the big round dark spot??blink.gif

 

Exacatackely [blink]

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