Big Norm Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 I used to play Epi LesPaul for long time before I sticked on Fender Stratocaster...that I still love, but I'm missing an Epi. I play a lot of Beatles and songs from that era, like dave Clark 5, rolling stones, Animals, etc...true the 80's, and also some Blues. I'm really sick to have a Casino, since The Beatles used it a lot, but I'm afraid of the P-90's... So I had a look on a Dot and a Sheraton, but I really hang up on the Casino. For the ones that experiment those P-90, what do you think ? Are they noisy, huming a lot? or are they quiet ? And about the sound, Is there a lot of difference between the 3 guitars I mentionned ? I'll do the move next week... Looking at reviews on you tube, they all have their own personality, but sound quit similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milod Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 They should all play about the same in terms of feel. I got the Dot because it's a good, solid, workman's guitar. It does many things well and, with a hard case, runs around $500 street new with warranty. For the Gibson version, cash being no concern... I'd likely just get the garden variety Dot. Any full hollow, btw, is more likely to have a bit more feedback. Humbucking pups were invented so they wouldn't hum like single pole pups inevitably would, at least "back in the day." I have one electric full hollow from the '50s with a single pole pup. I did well enough with it doing rock and country rock in the '70s. No real feedback probs even playing fairly loud, but by being aware it's sensitive. One 12-string acoustic with a mag pickup and it does quite well too. But then, you pays your money and takes yer choice. m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casino4Life Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 The Casino is a great versitale guitar, can get lots of sounds out of it. Listen to The Beatles Revolver and Sgt.Pepper albums it's full of Casino goodness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweed2 Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Of the eight guitars that I own, the Casino, is second only to my Ric 12 string, in personal popularity. I love the versitle sounds, the unplugged, "acoustic" factor and the light weight design. P-90s have become my pickups of choice (three of the guitars have them). Look, you can't go wrong with any of your choices, but if I were held to just one one guitar, I'd chose the Casino (just as McCartney would). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobouz Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 You might want to consider holding off until the 50th Anniversary '62 Sheraton and Sorrento are released. See the recent thread about these instruments for more info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Norm Posted October 6, 2012 Author Share Posted October 6, 2012 Thanks guys, I might go at the music store this afternoon... I'll let you know what I did later today :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diverden Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Can't go wrong with an Elitist Casino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis G Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Can't go wrong with an Elitist Casino. +1. I have a Dot, Elitist Casino, Gibby 339, Gibby LP and a Wildkat (among others, but those are my top 5 go to's). More often than not, I'm picking up the Casino first. Don't forget, on the Elitist line, the P90's are Gibby's not Epi's. Only downside is you may not find one in stock anywhere. I ordered mine from Sweetwater and waited about 3 months until it came in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweed2 Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 I've always hesitated to try an Elitist Casino, I'm afraid I wouldn't be happy with anything less, afterwards. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis G Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 I've always hesitated to try an Elitist Casino, I'm afraid I wouldn't be happy with anything less, afterwards. :D That's a pretty good assumption Pat. I've gotta tell you, there is just something about my Casino that draws me to it over all others. It's just a gem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ti-Ti Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Casino is a great choice (excepted if you are playing with 4 Marshall double stacks :) ) I've got a korean one, really a good guitar, P90s are very powerfull and clear in bass and medium, xtal in treble. I don't ear differences with US one. If you want a chinese one, try a couple of guitars before make your choice. Elytist is high quality and not so expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobouz Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 In the world of Casinos, the recent 50th Anniversary '61 Reissue represents a major value. Black Gibson P90s, Switchcraft switch & jack, grey period case, and the royal tan version is so sweeeeet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Norm Posted October 7, 2012 Author Share Posted October 7, 2012 Well, I went to the music store yesterday...and finally got back with a DOT, in Cherry red. Fantastic looking and playing guitar. Price was also very good... BUT...I have to return it. There is a major default on it... Look at the picture. It's the first time I ever see a mistake like this on a guitar... The chinese worker had a few beers the night before he builted this one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordy01 Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Well, I went to the music store yesterday...and finally got back with a DOT, in Cherry red. Fantastic looking and playing guitar. Price was also very good... BUT...I have to return it. There is a major default on it... Look at the picture. It's the first time I ever see a mistake like this on a guitar... The chinese worker had a few beers the night before he builted this one... Welcome back Big Norm. It's been a while since you were here. Good to "see" you again, A few beers indeed!! Wow. How did that get by Quality Control? Too bad about having to return it, but that is one of the reasons I buy in a local store. Just out of curiousity was the store Long & McQuade? They have bought out almost all of the smaller private stores here in Edmonton. I think they now have 4 locations here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Norm Posted October 7, 2012 Author Share Posted October 7, 2012 Hi Gord, Thanks for your kind words ;) The worst part of it...I bought it in a store called "The Rock shop" here in my area... and I really missed that " default " at first. It's when I started to play it at home that I noticed it was like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis G Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Wow. How did that get by Quality Control? That would be funny if it weren't so sad Condolences Norm, but you'll find a good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milod Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Yeah, I'd say that's a bit beyond just "odd." But at least one thing is there: the Dots are very nice guitars both in looks and performance at a very, very reasonable price tag. All kidding aside, I'm convinced they're at least in some sort of top 10 guitar values. m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad1 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 They got the dots wrong on the Dot!!!! I actually had to go and look at my cherry Dot just to make sure mine was right. Along with Gordy, I too thought it was nice to see you back here after an absence. Hope you get a great replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfine Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 McCartney got his Casino because it would feed back--apparently he'd just seen Hendrix and he wanted a guitar that would do that. Interesting that the first recorded use of guitar feedback (according to John Lennon, anyway) was Lennon's intro on "I Feel Fine"--I don't know if he used a Casino or the Rickenbacker 325 for that one. I understand that Lennon and George Harrison got their Casinos after Paul did. And that's crazy, having those double dots at the 11th fret. It does happen sometimes, and not just on Chinese guitars--there's a '60's Gretsch out there with a headstock logo that spells "Gertsch"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Norm Posted October 8, 2012 Author Share Posted October 8, 2012 Thanks Brad for your "welcome back" kind words. I was missing the "epi" spirit... Peoples on Strat-talk are nice, but I was missing you guys :) I'll bring my DOT to the store later this afternoon and let you know what will happen. If they have to order me a new one, I'll take it with a naturel finish. Anyway, I'll let you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluelake07 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 McCartney got his Casino because it would feed back--apparently he'd just seen Hendrix and he wanted a guitar that would do that. McCartney and Ringo Starr first saw Hendrix in January 1967 at the Bag O'Nails club, London. Paul McCartney was the first Beatle to acquire a Casino. Influenced to purchase it by his friend, blues musician John Mayall, McCartney said, “You’d go back to his place and he’d sit you down, give you a drink, and say, ‘Just check this out.’ He’d go over to his [tape] deck, and for hours blast you with B.B. King, Eric Clapton… he was sort of showing me where all of Eric’s stuff was from. He gave me a little evening’s education. I was turned on after that, and [bought] an Epiphone.” Mayall recalls the late-night record sessions. “I showed him my hollowbody guitar that I’d bought when I was in the army in Japan in 1955. When people get together and listen to records, they talk about all kinds of things related to the music, so obviously we must have touched upon the instruments and it struck home. He got a hollowbody after to get that tone.” The Epiphone Casino ES-230TD that McCartney purchased at the end of ’64 has an early-style Gibson-design headstock rather than Epiphone’s later hourglass-shaped headstock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KVL Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 I must confess, I too LOVE my Casino. But in regards to the DOT, It's amazing that yours has the dots wrong. A funny tale: When my brother got his first apartment in the 80's, our mom bought him a cheap touch-tone phone. It wasn't until he opened it later that he realized that it had two 5 buttons and no 8 button. 123 456 759 *0# He kept it as a goof, since it didn't affect the operation of the phone... just the drunks trying to call for a ride home. LOL... They'd look, and look again, and try to process what they were seeing through beer goggles! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Norm Posted October 8, 2012 Author Share Posted October 8, 2012 Ok, The dot is back to the store... The owner founded very funny !!! She ordered me a new one that I should receive within a few days. She will try to have me a natural instead of red, but she can't promisses, regarding to availability. I'll let you know later this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parabar Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Interesting that the first recorded use of guitar feedback (according to John Lennon, anyway) was Lennon's intro on "I Feel Fine"--I don't know if he used a Casino or the Rickenbacker 325 for that one ... Neither. The feedback intro on "I Feel Fine" was done on John's Gibson J-160E, an electric-acoustic guitar. At first it was accidental --- John hadn't turned the volume all the way down when he leaned the guitar against his amp, but he was so captivated by the sound he asked George Martin if they could use it somehow, and Martin spliced it into the intro. John then learned to recreate it intentionally for live performances --- again, with the J-160E. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casino4Life Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 + 1 Lennon and Harrison's Casinos didn't arrive til Spring of '66 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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