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490R & 498T

#21 User is offline   hwm 

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Posted 17 February 2014 - 02:33 PM

While i am not the most experienced player, I know what sounds good to me. Out of all the guitars I have, Fender Strat MIM, Epiphone SG (modified), older ~'80's Samick something HSS (heavily modified), and stock '92 Gibson LP Studio, the Gibson has the best tone qualities. Big deep lows, clear highs, and superb power from the 498/490 combo. Just don't keep the neck tone or volume all the way up. Thought about putting them in Epiphone SG, but didn't. Left the neck alone, Seymour Duncan TB14 Custom 5 in the bridge. But still might try it later. So bobf_, if you still have that set of pickups, send an email, we'll talk.

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Posted 17 February 2014 - 02:39 PM

View Posthwm, on 17 February 2014 - 02:33 PM, said:

While i am not the most experienced player, I know what sounds good to me. Out of all the guitars I have, Fender Strat MIM, Epiphone SG (modified), older ~'80's Samick something HSS (heavily modified), and stock '92 Gibson LP Studio, the Gibson has the best tone qualities. Big deep lows, clear highs, and superb power from the 498/490 combo. Just don't keep the neck tone or volume all the way up. Thought about putting them in Epiphone SG, but didn't. Left the neck alone, Seymour Duncan TB14 Custom 5 in the bridge. But still might try it later. So bobf_, if you still have that set of pickups, send an email, we'll talk.


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Posted 25 June 2014 - 03:14 PM

View Postdrakone, on 29 October 2013 - 01:28 AM, said:

I love dual 490 combo in my SG and I don't want to change them.
I've played with a bunch of SDs. like sh4, 5, 6, 13 and 2 and 59 in neck - in LP. SDs are great but there is some qualities in 490s that fits my taste.
This is not the matter of gain and output in nowadays amps and boosts which can give you massive gain from quite low output pickup.
For me it's better to have lower output since it gives some clarity - but maybe it's just my years.
Played an LP with 498 in the bridge and it was too compressed .


You had a SH-13 or Dimebucker in the NECK? Really? That's a huge switch from the other pickups you list. Did you not know it was a super output pickup designed for Diamond Darrell from Pantera?

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Posted 27 June 2014 - 05:23 AM

It is true the 490/498 combo sounds great. But i played them now for over 6 months and from the beginning i wanted to try some others. Not that i disliked them but im new with guitars and like learn and experiment with new sounds. In my case they where installed in a LPJ 2013. I have to say that i did not like the black plastic covers they came with. Now i changed them with 57 Classic on the neck and Angus Young Signature on the bridge. I like it more that way, i say it again i am pretty new with that stuff but for my ears especialy the Angus Young sounds much better. I found the 498 to harsh, but again imo. Maybe it is because of the woods used to build this guitar. It has a mahagony body maple top and neck. I am realy happy with the tone i get from them. But i am not done yet in my search for the perfect tone, if you have some sugestions of what could sound even better tell me. The only thing that is important to me is that they are versatile. Im just starting to play and one thing i think its important, its to play as many musical styles as i can that way i will learn much more.
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Posted 14 July 2014 - 08:52 AM

I like the 490/498 combo so much that I dissected a (nonfunctional) pair and took DC resistance values per bobbin off a 4-conductor pair so I could rewind all of my nonfunctional/cheap humbuckers in the parts drawer into rough approximations.

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Posted 21 April 2015 - 03:03 PM

I'm new to the forum, and rather late for replying to this thread, but since it's on the subject of the 498T, and how it works/fits sound wise on certain guitars... thought I would share my little project:

I have a GTX Stratocaster copy that I replaced the Bridge single coil pickup, with the 498T. I wanted some versatility as well as keeping a somewhat Gibson sound for live playing, and not having to switch guitars. Well of course, there is no substituting an actual Gibson Guitar, it works good enough for me. I also put in two push-pull pots allowing me to choose single coil sounds.
I really like the sounds I'm getting out of this setup. Love the 498T!

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Posted 21 April 2015 - 05:02 PM

Welcome, Orpheus, to this nice place in the web.

The 498T makes - alternatingly, of course - two great single coils and a nice parallel coils humbucker, too. Can definitely confirm that. By the way, I know that '57 Classics, '57 Classic Pluses, and the Burstbuckers do that, too. No Burstbucker 3 here, but I guess it will like the other four do :)
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Posted 07 May 2015 - 09:54 PM

i have a 498t and 490r on my les paul custom and i like the sound a lot. I don't need to change out the pickups for a long time. I'm totally happy with the sound. but the 490r is a bit muddy. not too bad though.

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Posted 19 August 2015 - 04:07 PM

View Postscottffitch, on 13 June 2013 - 04:58 PM, said:

I feel like the Gibson 490R & 498T pickup combo in the right guitar is highly overrated. Does anyone else feel like they get a bad rap..?

It's been my experience that many players who buy a new LP Studio, or SG Standard (two of the more affordable Gibson USA models..) often times blindly replace one, or both of these pickups immediately after getting their guitar home. This seems a travesty to me! It's my opinion that the 490, and 498 are some of Gibsons best pickups when in an all mahogany guitar..

Any thoughts?

-scott


What suits one may not suit another, so its no use asking others which pickups are good - you will only get their opinion - you have to use your own ears, but.....
I might ruffle a few opinions here - but I find sound/tone to be very subjective and relative to the mood of the player on the day. I have two guitars with the 490/498 combination fitted and love them. However, whichever guitar I pick up, whatever pickups are fitted, the ones I really hated yesterday somehow sound really good today and vice versa, depending on how I feel.
I know some things will never change and a cheap, bad pickup will never sound good. But if all your guitars have good quality pickups, the variation in tone will please you some days but not others depending on your mood, the style of music you play at the time etc
Different brands of amp also have a strong affect on the sound of a pickup. I have two tube amps and, using the same guitar, can't get exactly the same tone from both no matter how much I fiddle with the tone settings etc. I just use the amp that sounds 'right' on the day.
And some days you will want to rattle the roof tiles, and other days you will play gentler tunes - will one type of pickup perform both tasks well? Only your own ears can tell you.

Too many variable for me to say one pickup is good and another bad - but I know I like 57 Classic Plus, 490/498 together, and even Burstbucker Pro on a good day.

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Posted 20 August 2015 - 01:06 AM

My set of 490r/498t PUs sit unused in a cardboard box. Here is how they ended up that way.
They came with my Ebony Studio Les Paul. I'm basically a plug and play guy. I was unable to get crunchy R&R sound without using pedal. This mystified me.
I bought a Seymore Duncan Hotrodded PU set and suddenly my Studio LP was a plug and play guitar like I wanted.
I simply wasn't getting crunchy enough sounds from the Gibby PUs. The 490r/498t is an expensive set of PUs so I am still miffed why they weren't plug and play R&R PUs. Why were they even made if they wouldn't crunch?
Maybe one day I'll solder them back into the Studio and give them another chance but for now the SD Hotrodders are doing the job.
Now I just take my SD Hot Rodders and plug them in and play. Crunch, crunch, crunch. No pedal.

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