pippy Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Many congrats on the guitar and thanks for the thoughtful in-depth review, Bence. Will you bother sufficiently about the quality of the plastics that you will swap them out? They won't cost too much to change but, nevertheless, it's an annoyance you could do without. I know exactly what you mean about the thickness of the p'g; I had an Epi LP myself and the relative crudeness of the 'guard was something which always niggled me... Pip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drog Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Bence, great review, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btoth76 Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 Hello Pippy. To be honest, I am surprised about the plastics being the most annoying bits about the guitar. I was prepared for a bridge and nut swap. But these parts are functionally OK. For now, I leave it as it is. I am just a bit frustrated that such a tiny bits make it a less than a perfect guitar. Best wishes... Bence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparquelito Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 She's a beauty, Bence. Congratulations! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveFord Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Great review. Replace the plastic bits and it sounds like you'll be good to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cody78 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Hey Bence, I always thought Gibson should have felt rings under the strap buttons too. Having them looks like a bit more attention to detail, plus better for the wood/ lacquer to help avoid splits/ cracks. Also, it's interesting that you mention Epiphone LPs always looked a little 'off' in terms of shape. I thought I was the only one who noticed this! In the past, many of the ones I saw looked slightly different to Gibsons. Maybe lately they are following the shape more closely. Last year I picked up a wine red Epi LP Custom pro and it's body shape seems identical to my Gibson LPs from the front view, but the only thing I noticed is the depth on the side view is not quite as deep as on a Gibson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btoth76 Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 Hello Cody. Bence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capmaster Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Thank you very much for your detailed review, Bence, much appreciated! I'm glad you're fine with her in most respects, in particular playability and tone. :) The plastics don't look poor or inferior to me in any way, with the possible exception of the pickguard, but I also don't like the only one on a LP, my Gibson LP Traditional. I just leave it there to keep the drilled holes shut. The stock polyamide aka Nylon nut on my Epiphone LP is the best nut on any guitar of mine with an angled headstock, just 14° on my Epiphone. Also consider that the revered Gibson Les Paul guitars built until 1960 also came with Nylon nuts. and they work well at 17° headstock angle, too. On the other hand, the Nylon nut on my Chinese Ibanez Artist tends to seizing the D4th. A friend of mine is a carpenter making custom and design furniture from lots of different woods and with any finish from nitro, polyacryl, polyacetate, polyurethane, schellac or simply oil. He made me aware of the visual effects of the finishes' refraction indices last year. His experience allows for estimating the thickness of transparent or translucent coats respectively top layers. He said that most finishes seem thicker to the eye when looking at them at an angled view. I asked him to evaluate several of my guitar finishes for thickness, and I had to admit that I would have guessed next to all of them thicker. The values he found just by view indeed met the factory specs very closely. He is no guitar specialist, so he didn't know before what finish certain models may be coated with. With all his experience from checking finished furniture parts daily he just felt the kind of finish 100% safe by touch with his fingertips, no matter if glossy or satin. He also told me that the way of finish ripple on surfaces soaking differently through grain correlates with finish chemistry as well as with average thickness, and that fully evening it out is difficult or, depending on timber, next to impossible, in particular with nitro. Sorry, I ended up getting a bit lengthy now No offence intended. Again, congrats on your nice buy. I think you will have lots of fun with your nice new Epiphone ES Les Paul! EDIT: Except the headstock, of course, I haven't found a new set-neck Epiphone Les Paul seeming off to me since years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capmaster Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Hello Cody. Bence. Is this a real versus fake challenge, or what? Just kidding... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Hard to tell from pictures, of course, but the selector switch on the Epi seems nearer to the top-button than on the Gibson. On the Gibbie the switch-hole seems almost level with the 21st fret whereas on the Epi it seems further forward; nearer the 20th fret. The cutaway horn on the Epi also seems to have a very slightly shallower-radius cut than that on the Gibson....... Pip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btoth76 Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 Hard to tell from pictures, of course, but the selector switch on the Epi seems nearer to the top-button than on the Gibson. On the Gibbie the switch-hole seems almost level with the 21st fret whereas on the Epi it seems further forward; nearer the 20th fret. The cutaway horn on the Epi also seems to have a very slightly shallower-radius cut than that on the Gibson....... Pip. Indeed, Pippy. Also, the pot knobs are lower on the Epi. Bence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky Forrest Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 What a great looking and sounding guitar and thanks for your review. Congratulations! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badbluesplayer Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Beautiful!! [thumbup] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigKahune Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 . Seems you're very happy with your new Epi ES-LP. . Well done review. . B) Just one comment: I've had a coupla Epi LPs over the years and still have '09 Ultra II. From your photos, looks to me like Epi has gotten better at the fretboard inlays - I remember seeing bits of filler here and there, including a coupla spots around my Ultra II markers. Beautiful guitar. Congrats. . B) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Bence, Glad to hear you had a + experience with this, sure is a beautiful looking axe... I love semi hollows, I have three of them. Versatile instruments, you can crank em when needed, they wont howl like a hollow body will, and they soften up and do jazz tones and are great for dabbling with fusion pieces as well finger style solo work. Enjoy the playing! /r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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