gluedblevins Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Hello. First post! : ) In 1990 my Grandma purchased a Tobacco burst Dove and I was curious to how rare the finish is, it was recently handed down to me. Also she had purchased a 12 string Doves in flight but it's been so long since I've laid eyes on it, I believe it was Black. A guitar my uncle has in storage and I've never asked him about it even though he says it'll be handed down to me. Knda of a sentimental subject. But was curious since I just acquired the 6 string Dove Any info on these guitars would be much appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanCarlosVejar Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 That may have been a small run from the 1990’s. The most common dove finishes have been: cherry back and sides with natural top or cherry sunburst (orange) and the Elvis Presley Dove model was all black. I’ve seen very few Doves in “classic” tabacco sunburst. One can be seen here: JC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Some may claim that real Doves have natural tops over either cherry or tomato-soup red back'n'sides. I follow the thought, , , but have to say the burst versions are extremely attractive. In other words : Can we see this maple-flier. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-1854Me Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Hogeye would be the best bet to provide that information. Fred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksdaddy Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 I've seen some Kalamazoo Doves from around 1980 that were tobacco sunburst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksdaddy Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 lol sorry 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinder Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 I love a natural Dove, but the tobacco burst Doves are-to my eyes-some of the sexiest guitars in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogeye Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Shipping numbers for Doves in Vintage Sunburst with nickel hardware ACDOVSNH1 1989---13 1990----7 1991---86 1992---21 1993--- 5 1994--- 8 none were produced from 1995 to 2003. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gluedblevins Posted January 5, 2019 Author Share Posted January 5, 2019 Shipping numbers for Doves in Vintage Sunburst with nickel hardware ACDOVSNH1 1989---13 1990----7 1991---86 1992---21 1993--- 5 1994--- 8 none were produced from 1995 to 2003. My Dove has the Deluxe tuners and came with the Brown exterior and Pink exterior case . I will post pics soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibson Artist Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 That may have been a small run from the 1990’s. The most common dove finishes have been: cherry back and sides with natural top or cherry sunburst (orange) and the Elvis Presley Dove model was all black. I’ve seen very few Doves in “classic” tabacco sunburst. One can be seen here: JC While i am not a fan of the tobacco colour, the sound of that Dove blows the Bird away here. Sure, the bird is loud and a cannon, but the subtle beauty of the Dove and its smooth, mellow feel just sounds like heaven to my ears. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
generaldreedle Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 This guy by the way, James James, gives great video guitar lessons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibson Artist Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 I like the Dove better myself, but blows it away is opinion and personal preference. Their different tone woods and as such sound different. I used to gravitate towards rosewoods because of the volume, especially great for fingerpickin. My Taylor and Martin both have rosewood, tons of volume, tho admittedly more on D-28, but the 214 is shockingly good for a laminate and the profile of the cutaway is extremely comfortable. Ive heard people say Maple is a bright sounding tonewood, but the Dove does not sound bright to my ears, not at all. It sounds mellow, smooth, and balanced. When i said blows away, i meant for my particular taste. Ive been really missing my j-50, the guy who had it drilled a hole in it and when i asked to trade it back, wanted my bass amp, my les paul special, and wanted my taylor. When i had sold it to him for only 1k, he wanted 2500 worth of gear back, and this was after he drilled a hole in it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dberlind Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 I just acquired an unmolested 1980 Tobacco Burst Gibson Dove. By unmolested, I mean that it has been in the owner's case for over 25 years and is in nearly mint condition. I am currently humidifying it (in my custom built guitar humidification cabinet) and after it has soaked up some moisture for a few weeks, I'll be taking it to my luthier for setup. One thing I was curious about is the label inside the soundhole says "Dove Custom". It's possible that "custom" refers to the Tobacco Burst build since it's apparently rare. I was wondering what the consensus in this forum is. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksdaddy Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Many 70s acoustics had "custom" or "deluxe" on the label. No idea why. Seriously, not a clue. It wasn't like they were distinct models. Sometimes I think they put those additions to the names so they could vary from what was shown as a catalog model....i.e variances in the sunburst or tuners. But I could be full of hot air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimt Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 I had one of those from the 73 era. Dark burst. And a 3 piece back. It was a dog. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dberlind Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Thanks for the answers. By the way, here's a photo (in the chamber, getting humidified) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 If the guitar was birthed in 1990 it will have a Fullerplast finish and a paddle neck joint rather than the traditional Dovetail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksdaddy Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 My mother passed away in March and one of the things I've been unsuccessfully trying to sell is this oak china cabinet. maybe I should market it as a humidifying chamber so I can sell it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dberlind Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 (edited) @ksdaddy I modified mine. Had to reinforce the back because it was just a flimsy sheet of wood. But the vision worked out pretty nicely. One that's almost exactly like yours showed up on the local Craigslist today. I've been thinking about doing another one. ps: very sorry about your mother. my condolences. Edited June 11, 2020 by dberlind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dberlind Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 @zombywolf this is 1980, not 1990. Came with all the original paper work. The ink on the bill of sale is faded though. I can't see the price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 (edited) 19 hours ago, dberlind said: @zombywolf this is 1980, not 1990. Came with all the original paper work. The ink on the bill of sale is faded though. I can't see the price. The original thread was about a Dove purchased in 1990. If built in Bozeman in the late-1980s or early-1990s it would have the two features I mentioned. I believe though your 1980 would also have the paddle neck joint which was came about in the 1970s and so referred to because of the paddle shaped tenon installed at the top of the Dovetail. Edited June 11, 2020 by zombywoof Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 21 hours ago, ksdaddy said: My mother passed away in March and one of the things I've been unsuccessfully trying to sell is this oak china cabinet. maybe I should market it as a humidifying chamber so I can sell it. I could use this for my collection of hand-painted tin-soldiers. But the situation is that I don't have such a collection. Well, , , very few, , , in plastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Here's the shrewd Wehrmacht officer. An opponent of highest risk and danger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 And here we see him caught after a brief but fierce battle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, E-minor7 said: And here we see him caught after a brief but fierce battle. Was he apprehended while protecting a cache of panzer paint? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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