egoidealmusic Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Hey folks, Just watched this, and wondered if anyone had played one of these. I'm not looking as I've got a great 70s Epiphone 12-string (with a slope shouldered body), but I'm just curious what folks think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brucebubs Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Looks much nicer than it sounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 13 minutes ago, Brucebubs said: Looks much nicer than it sounds. If I said that the masses would be outside my door with pitchforks and lit torches. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raul Rehlmann Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 More is not necessarily better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raul Rehlmann Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 18 minutes ago, Sgt. Pepper said: If I said that the masses would be outside my door with pitchforks and lit torches. I find that the less I act like a monster, the less they show up outside my door with pitchforks and lit torches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave F Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 I've owned four 12 string guitars. They always wind up just hanging on the wall so I move them on. But this J-45-12 does intrigue me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 (edited) 12's are a strange beast. I don't play mine as much as I should but my wife bought me mine, which is a USA made Martin J12-16GT. I will never sell it. But those that can play them well, I am in awe of. Edited January 6, 2022 by Sgt. Pepper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Raul Rehlmann said: I find that the less I act like a monster, the less they show up outside my door with pitchforks and lit torches What if I was a friendly monster like Elmo or Cookie Monster? Edited January 6, 2022 by Sgt. Pepper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brucebubs Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Sgt. Pepper said: If I said that the masses would be outside my door with pitchforks and lit torches. Just so you know where I was coming from when I made my comment about how it sounds to me. Edited January 6, 2022 by Brucebubs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Brucebubs said: Just so you know how I came to my conclusion. Hey some look like Martin's. Here is mine. Edited January 6, 2022 by Sgt. Pepper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brucebubs Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Sgt. Pepper said: Hey one is a Martin. Here is mine. Yep - Martin Grand J12-40E Special - their very first super jumbo with 17" lower bout - one of only 231 ever made - I'm guessing they were aiming to catch Guild F-512 buyers but they were just too expensive - they even copied the Guild 12-string bridge pattern with the primary strings closest to the saddle and octaves at the back which is unusual with Martin 12's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, Brucebubs said: Yep - Martin Grand J12-40E Special - their very first super jumbo with 17" lower bout - one of only 231 ever made - I'm guessing they were aiming to catch Guild F-512 buyers but they were just too expensive - they even copied the Guild 12-string bridge pattern with the primary strings closest to the saddle and octaves at the back which is unusual with Martin 12's. Is it RW? Edited January 6, 2022 by Sgt. Pepper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brucebubs Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Sgt. Pepper said: Is it RW? Yes, rosewood back and sides - came out in 2009 and produced for 3 years. The late Mike Nesmith played one in concert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Nice. Mine is a 2001 and is hog back and sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 I own one but it was built in 1961. My favorite 12 string of all time though remains my ca. 1940 Regal. Big X braced jumbo. It was originally found sticking out of a trash bin. I sold it when I picked up the Gibson. For me there is a certain itch only a 12 string can scratch but I just did not get that itch often enough to warrant keeping more than one around. My wife though plays a Martin D12-28. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egoidealmusic Posted January 6, 2022 Author Share Posted January 6, 2022 Yeah, I very rarely play mine either. After tuning it up I'm just tired! But there are some songs where it just sounds fantastic. I think it just requires a lot more talent--or practice--than I've got! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBSinTo Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Raul Rehlmann said: I find that the less I act like a monster, the less they show up outside my door with pitchforks and lit torches Raul, Offering an opinion on a Gibson guitar that is less than glowing doesn't make one a monster. RBSinTo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 What is that old saying about 12 strings? You spend half your time tuning and the other half playing out of tune. It is hard today though to imagine that by the 1950s the only U.S. Company offering 12 string guitars was Harmony. Gibson came along in 1961 with the 45-12 and then around 1963 Martin and, of course, Guild. Even Harmony upped its game when they came out with the H1270 which was a 12 string verson of their flagship Sovereign. If you listen to early Stones and Who LPs this is the 12 string you hear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 12 hours ago, Sgt. Pepper said: If I said that the masses would be outside my door with pitchforks and lit torches. they might be anyway, better check dude!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyearspickn Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 10 hours ago, RBSinTo said: Raul, Offering an opinion on a Gibson guitar that is less than glowing doesn't make one a monster. RBSinTo Funny how we go from talking about a Gibson J45 12 string to Martin' tone wood in half a page. And monsters under our beds in less time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyearspickn Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Oh. My two cents - I got a 12 string back in the 60s. Never could 'bond' with the idea. Sold it after a year, never looked back. But, like Sgt.Pepper, I am in awe of those who have mastered the beast. Or, is it .... a monster ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 24 minutes ago, fortyearspickn said: Oh. My two cents - I got a 12 string back in the 60s. Never could 'bond' with the idea. Sold it after a year, never looked back. But, like Sgt.Pepper, I am in awe of those who have mastered the beast. Or, is it .... a monster ! EM7 in a different thread called a Hummingbird a creature. Until you see it in person you don’t know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyearspickn Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 We have a hummingbird feeder. They're not real smart. If they get close, you can hear a buzz, or 'hum'. We also have Doves that come to the regular seed feeder. I guess Gibson Marketing 60 years ago didn't have all the wonderful monster choices. At least they didn't call any of their models "Frankenstein". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 (edited) Someday I am going to make good on my threat to convert one of my guitars to a 7 string by adding the octave G string. Spider John Koerner did this in the 1960s with a 1920s Gibson L1 archtop or something. Then I got hold of one of those 7 string McGuinn Martin signature guitars for a bit. It was enough to sell me on them. Edited January 7, 2022 by zombywoof Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, fortyearspickn said: We have a hummingbird feeder. They're not real smart. If they get close, you can hear a buzz, or 'hum'. We also have Doves that come to the regular seed feeder. I guess Gibson Marketing 60 years ago didn't have all the wonderful monster choices. At least they didn't call any of their models "Frankenstein". Gibson should have made a Pigeon or Sparrow model too, or gone prehistoric and made the Pterodactyl model. Think of the fun pickguards they would have. Edited January 7, 2022 by Sgt. Pepper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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