Rosinante Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 Long story short I am getting a big bonus at work this year, more money than anyone has ever given me at one time. Half is going to the family and practicality, and the other half is for a nice guitar. I will be able to get pretty much any acoustic I would like and since I live within driving distance to Fuller's and love Gibson's it just might be a Gibson. Previously I have owned several fantastic J-45s that I had to part with for financial reasons with the TV J-45 being the best of the bunch, unfortunately the new custom shop J-45s don't have the Advanced X bracing. Anyway all things being equal, what Montana acoustic has the deepest most cavernous bass. I'm looking for something that when tuned to drop D will put anyone in the room on notice. I have another guitar that is very balanced, so the main purpose for this would be just the bass and the thump! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J185cat Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 Of the models I have played or owned my AJ has the deepest bass. There was a model Gibson made in the past, can’t remember the model number, maybe J40, that they built to compete with them D28 that I have never played. I’m sure someone on here can comment on that. I currently have a custom shop D28 that has Adirondack top and scalloped Adi braces set in the “Golden Era” position. It of course is a deep resonate guitar but my AJ is right there with it with just the perfect amount of Gibson sparkle on top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
62burst Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 (edited) The deep bodied short scalers like the Stage Deluxe Rosewood seemed to be the right formula for producing good bass, but that depth of sound without any great projection is of little use. Of what use is great bass if it doesn’t project it cleanly.? (check the clarity of bass on a maple J-185 just for grins) Edited October 19, 2023 by 62burst 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 I would have to think a large bodied, long scaled Rosewood, but sometimes specs don't match reality. Works the same with women... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 Do not have a clue. But the second-generation luthier who fixed up my 1942 J50 described it as having a low end which would send a pre-War Martin D28 Herringbone running for cover. Said his father used to call guitars like these "once in a blue moon Gibsons." 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave F Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 (edited) This may qualify. Super400 AB Body Edited October 19, 2023 by Dave F 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptorman Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 That would quench his low end desire, but he might not like the highs! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptorman Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 Maybe that's what Gibson should design.....a standard acoustic 6 string with a couple bass strings on top😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4beagles Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 own lots of Martins and Gibsons- surprisingly the Gibson Songwriter has some outstanding bass and top end sizzle................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave F Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Ceptorman said: That would quench his low end desire, but he might not like the highs! Maybe a double neck with a bass and tenor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrairieDog Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 I can’t offer anything useful, but just wanted to say, as an employer who also gets it, congrats on the nice bonus, and for working for somebody who recognizes how the money gets made. Good job! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoSoxBiker Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 Haven't we seen/heard some of the 12-fret Custom Slopes from 8-10 years ago come in with some very deep sounding bass to them? Why am I thinking something like the Jackson Browne model? The long scale rosewood implementation of my HC SJ-200 Pre War 1939 has a very nice low-mid rumble to it. It's loud and boisterous and you can feel the rumble, but not sure it's as deep as a bass sound that I've heard in the Custom Slope samples heard 'round the forum. Most of the guitar shop demos online use rooms and mics that add to the brightness, which makes it kind of tough to judge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosinante Posted October 19, 2023 Author Share Posted October 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Dave F said: This may qualify. Super400 AB Body ha! great answer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave F Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 If getting a strong bass out of a Gibson acoustic was my goal, I would get an Advanced Jumbo (AJ), put some 13's on it, drop it a half or whole step and make sure the setup is high enough to not buzz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosinante Posted October 19, 2023 Author Share Posted October 19, 2023 11 minutes ago, BoSoxBiker said: Haven't we seen/heard some of the 12-fret Custom Slopes from 8-10 years ago come in with some very deep sounding bass to them? Why am I thinking something like the Jackson Browne model? The long scale rosewood implementation of my HC SJ-200 Pre War 1939 has a very nice low-mid rumble to it. It's loud and boisterous and you can feel the rumble, but not sure it's as deep as a bass sound that I've heard in the Custom Slope samples heard 'round the forum. Most of the guitar shop demos online use rooms and mics that add to the brightness, which makes it kind of tough to judge. Well when I get the cash in the bank account and make the trip to Fuller's I will try 2 of everything they have before deciding. I'll probably do something stupid like buy a dove because it's pretty! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosinante Posted October 19, 2023 Author Share Posted October 19, 2023 I've never had a problem getting bass from the couple of J-45s I had in the past. Just wondering what others experience was. I did play an amazing AJ at guitar center of all places over 10 years ago and that had what I am looking for however time travel is unfortunately not possible and if it was I doubt I would waste it on guitar shopping. 2 minutes ago, Dave F said: If getting a strong bass out of a Gibson acoustic was my goal, I would get an Advanced Jumbo (AJ), put some 13's on it, drop it a half or whole step and make sure the setup is high enough to not buzz. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 I'll have to say the acoustic Firebird - it's royalty and it's monstrous. Heavier sounding than both Hummingbird (for sure), J-45 and, , , the sibling Dove. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 Here's mine from 2010 ~ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave F Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 I'd love to hear one of these. They have the long scale with a red spruce aged top. I bet it's a monster. Gibson | 1936 Advanced Jumbo Vintage Sunburst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 To illustrate how dangerously strong it is we here see how it killed a passing spider - It was shown no mercy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egoidealmusic Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 I've got a 50s J-45 that is the bassiest acoustic guitar I, or anyone who's heard it, ever heard. Maybe it's just this one, but I feel like I've seen other threads where folks have talked about maybe the chunkier neck having something to do with it. Also, I think bone nuts and saddles produce more bass than the Tusq that's on the J-45 standards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jt Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 In my very humble opinion, the bassiest Gibson acoustic is the very rare FON 910 1943 rosewood back and sides SJ. My comparison of a FON 910 1943 rosewood SJ with a FON 2735 1944 mahogany SJ: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWG4927 Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 6 hours ago, zombywoof said: But the second-generation luthier who fixed up my 1942 J50 described it as having a low end which would send a pre-War Martin D28 Herringbone running for cover. "My guitar can beat up your guitar?" 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jt Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 6 hours ago, zombywoof said: Do not have a clue. But the second-generation luthier who fixed up my 1942 J50 described it as having a low end which would send a pre-War Martin D28 Herringbone running for cover. Said his father used to call guitars like these "once in a blue moon Gibsons." Oh, my. I'm confident that luthier has never played a pre-war herringbone. Every one that I've played has had an astonishing bass response. So much so that I found the guitars not useful for my playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrairieDog Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 50 minutes ago, E-minor7 said: Here's mine from 2010 ~ Holy crap that’s gorgeous. Okay, yeah, I’m a sucker for that sort of inlay. Love to trot that out in front of the old metal crew, lol. (Would have to spend my time travel allowance on that, chuckle) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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