Sgt. Pepper Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 I just looked at a thread in the acoustic section. On the Gibson Label is says the guitar was Union Made. Is there a Union at Gibson? I never heard of the Loyal Brotherhood of Guitar Makers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grog Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 The Kalamazoo plant was union. The Nashville and all plants after that I believe were non-union. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merciful-evans Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 Makes me wonder about Heritage now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimt Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 What year did the union label become a thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyearspickn Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 I read some conjecture here that one reason MT was selected of IL was to avoid Union entanglement. I don't think MT is a "Union Free" (or "Right To Work") state - but it might be harder to organize in a new business or branch. I think the days where "Union Made" was a selling point didn't lapse over into this century. Label you saw must have been on a guitar from the 70s or earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrdinaryNimda Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) On 11/3/2023 at 2:15 PM, Grog said: The Kalamazoo plant was union. The Nashville and all plants after that I believe were non-union. They probably closed Kalamazoo and relocated to Nasvhille in the 80s just for this reason! Edited November 6, 2023 by OrdinaryNimda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Michigan, Illinois, Ohio heck the whole "rust belt" was VERY union back in the day and had the strongest economies in the country until everybody started buying foreign made products and companies moved out for right to work states. What we ended up with is this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyearspickn Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 I remember when the media started reporting Steel Plants closing, and the business going overseas. It seems Atlas Shrugged - we didn't care because we had color TVs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparquelito Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Every Saturday morning on radio station WVNN, there's an hour-long show called The Valley Labor Report. Now, the set up is that WVNN is a conservative talk show type radio station. (Local conservative talk show guys are featured all day, along with the syndicated Dan Bongino and Mark Levin shows in the afternoon and evening.) And Alabama is a right-to-work State, with a strong voting record (except for the rust belt region) of voting in conservatives to office. The Valley Labor Report show is decidedly not conservative, and is hosted by a couple of fellows who are pro-Union. They spend an hour each Saturday morning extolling virtues of Union membership, slagging evil corporations and "Bosses", and just generally dishing hate onto a certain former US President who sports a seriously unusual head of hair. I find it interesting, when I'm driving around on Saturday morning errands, to give a listen. The WVNN programming director has always tried to carve out some time each day to afford some local non-conservative type guys their own shows, I think in the interest of trying to appear non-partisan. But ratings (and advert sales) are king in talk radio, so it's a sink or swim situation for various liberal talk show hosts in the Tennessee Valley. Usually they sink. But The Valley Labor Report seems to have survived, and has clearly has found an audience. 😐 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 It's a fine line, for sure. I'm pretty damned conservative, however the middle class gets clobbered under both systems and a good union has merit. It shouldn't take 4 part time jobs to raise a family. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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