gibsonchiq Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Firstly, I guess would Gibson even make an SJ 200 with 24.75 scale? Secondly, where is the master list of possible options? I googled how to custom order from gibson, and everyone is saying that you have to contact your local dealer. does this mean that the local dealer has an updated spreadsheet with all the different possible options? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 (edited) Go to a guitar store that sells Gibson’s and talk about doing a M2M guitar. You must place the order through a shop. Gibson probably won’t do that scale on that guitar do to re-tooling the machines, but you can ask. Edited March 20 by Sgt. Pepper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J185cat Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 I may be wrong about this but I think Gibson did an Emily Lou Harris version of the J200 back in the 2000’s that was a shorter scale. Hey, it’s Gibson. Probably would be easier to ask what they haven’t made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsongs Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Does Gibson make a modern Spec non Pre War version SJ-200 with Spruce Top & Rosewood Back & Sides & LR Baggs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 58 minutes ago, J185cat said: I may be wrong about this but I think Gibson did an Emily Lou Harris version of the J200 back in the 2000’s that was a shorter scale. Hey, it’s Gibson. Probably would be easier to ask what they haven’t made. Emily Lou pulls a little more weight than some guy off the street. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 2 hours ago, Larsongs said: Does Gibson make a modern Spec non Pre War version SJ-200 with Spruce Top & Rosewood Back & Sides & LR Baggs? You forgot "pre-CBS". Yer welcome. rct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsongs Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 32 minutes ago, rct said: You forgot "pre-CBS". Yer welcome. rct Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave F Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 I would think you would not any issues getting one made. The Humming bird and even the new J45 Custom Ebony have the bird beak bound necks and are short scale so they're tooled for it. From my experience, the maple guitars are not that loud but have a very balanced sweet tone. The J200's (I'm on my 5th one) are not known for being extra loud and that's with the long scale. My fear is you may not like the sound of the Jumbo maple with a short scale. If you haven't tried one a J185 (slightly smaller 16" instead of 17", maple body) is a short scale and I like them. Good Luck! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibsonchiq Posted March 21 Author Share Posted March 21 17 minutes ago, Dave F said: I would think you would not any issues getting one made. The Humming bird and even the new J45 Custom Ebony have the bird beak bound necks and are short scale so they're tooled for it. From my experience, the maple guitars are not that loud but have a very balanced sweet tone. The J200's (I'm on my 5th one) are not known for being extra loud and that's with the long scale. My fear is you may not like the sound of the Jumbo maple with a short scale. If you haven't tried one a J185 (slightly smaller 16" instead of 17", maple body) is a short scale and I like them. Good Luck! J200 not known for being extra loud? I thought they were known for being the absolute loudest and biggest sounding guitars gibson makes, and also of all guitars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buc McMaster Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 34 minutes ago, Dave F said: From my experience, the maple guitars are not that loud but have a very balanced sweet tone. I agree. The three J200s I have owned in the past were not loud instruments. It must be the maple. The J185 I now have is short-scaled maple and not loud at all.........quite warm with a lot of low mids. I do think I J200 is better balanced in comparison. I think my M2M Gibson acoustic would be a 12-fret Hummingbird.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibsonchiq Posted March 21 Author Share Posted March 21 Well my mind is blown. I thought the j200 was the answer to Martin's big dreadnaughts. So is a J45 Gibsons loudest and rumbly guitar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J185cat Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 3 hours ago, Sgt. Pepper said: Emily Lou pulls a little more weight than some guy off the street. That was not the point. I was just saying they have done it before and it should not be a problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J185cat Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 2 minutes ago, gibsonchiq said: Well my mind is blown. I thought the j200 was the answer to Martin's big dreadnaughts. So is a J45 Gibsons loudest and rumbly guitar? I would pick the AJ to fill that spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibsonchiq Posted March 21 Author Share Posted March 21 51 minutes ago, J185cat said: I would pick the AJ to fill that spot. So in order of largest sound deepest bass 1. AJ 2. J-45 3. Sj200 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimt Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 I have a 1994 Custom shop SJ200 . Its a outstanding guitar. Sound wize. playability, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsongs Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 The Pre War J-200’s were Spruce Top with Rosewood Back & Sides.. A excellent combination for beautiful balanced clean tone & plenty of volume.. When & why did they opt for Maple Back & Sides?? Is there a non Studio model modern Spec SJ-200 with Rosewood Back & Sides with L.R. Baggs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
62burst Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 5 hours ago, Dave F said: From my experience, the maple guitars are not that loud but have a very balanced sweet tone. The J200's (I'm on my 5th one) are not known for being extra loud and that's with the long scale. 4 hours ago, Buc McMaster said: I agree. The three J200s I have owned in the past were not loud instruments. It must be the maple. The J185 I now have is short-scaled maple and not loud at all.........quite warm with a lot of low mids. I do think I J200 is better balanced in comparison. Agree here, too. Imhop, the '200's are more known for their incredibly balanced tone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
62burst Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 (edited) 5 hours ago, Buc McMaster said: . . . I think my M2M Gibson acoustic would be a 12-fret Hummingbird.............. That would be bizarre. Although I don't hear "warm" with the '185, it's the mini Jumbo's (?) bass note clarity and general projection that catches my ear. Now, a 12-fret '185- that might warm things up a bit. Edited March 21 by 62burst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buc McMaster Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 5 hours ago, Larsongs said: When & why did they opt for Maple Back & Sides?? Is there a non Studio model modern Spec SJ-200 with Rosewood Back & Sides with L.R. Baggs? Rosewood J200s (all J200s) ceased in 1942 or so, likely due to availability of rosewood at the time. Maple was the wood when production of the model resumed in '46........don't know the why of that. Currently there are a few rosewood J200s: Pre-War SJ200 Rosewood - Western Classic J200 and one or two others as well. One of the 200s I had was a WC........nice guitar but suffered from a marginal neck set.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave F Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 I had a RW J 200 and a Koa J200. Beautiful guitars but did nothing for me sound wise and RW is my favorite tone wood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Man, you're getting younger, Buc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrairieDog Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 (edited) Hey, thanks everyone! After reading all these comments I am just chiming in to say I’m seconding the idea the maple may be to blame. And, you all set my mind right about my DIF. Since I picked that up early in the spree, I’ve noticed, even being the largest body we have, I was thinking it was sounding quiet, a bit of a wall flower, in comparison with smaller guitars with RW or mahogany, including the little 12 fret L1 archtop. It still sounds dreamy unplugged, but now I have an explanation why it doesn’t hold the center in a jam. I will give it more love as a solo instrument, and stop thinking of the quietness as a tiny disappointment. As always thanks for the great info. Edited March 21 by PrairieDog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave F Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 I’ve always thought my DIF is the sweetest sounding guitar I have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrairieDog Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 5 minutes ago, Dave F said: I’ve always thought my DIF is the sweetest sounding guitar I have. Oh for sure… There is nothing like it, it’s beautiful, I just learned a bit more about it today, and that I shouldn’t have been expecting it to compete with the boomier guitars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buc McMaster Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 1 hour ago, Murph said: Man, you're getting younger, Buc... i am?! That's certainly news to me, Murph..........sure doesn't feel that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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