Cruznolfart Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 OOh... a slow clap. That's some good stuff right there. Hell yeah! What's a little slow clap among friends? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swleary Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 I used play in some bands back a long time ago. Do I jam...ya but not very often anymore. My classification of a musician is , somebody that loves music and loves to learn. You guys do know that playing an instrument actually makes you learn other things easier. Fender did a study on it a few years ago and they found that kids who played instruments while in school actually learned a lot better than non players. So if you love to play any instrument, you are a brainchild !!! lol. One other point.... it's all about the love of the music, not the money !!! Money would just be a bonus lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstMeasure Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 I'm in a Band that Gigs.....Finally!!!! It took a year of serious practice before we could start playing for free. There's a Chinese restaurant up here that lets you set up in the bar, but you have to charge at the door and advertise and all that. Then we'd volunteer for civic functions and (I'm sorry to say) a couple Memorials for locals that we lost this year. There's phone call after phone call to noncommittal Bar Owners and Managers.......,"We're booked up for the next Year, but keep calling back." So, about a year and a half after starting this project, learning enough tunes to cover 6 sets (you usually only need 4, but Variety is extremely important if you want call backs) we're finally gettin some paying gigs. We did 4 night at the beginning of the month, we have another lined up this weekend and the promise of more in Feb. Then you have to Deliver when you get to the gig. Simply Put, you don't have to deliver in your living room. That's not putting down anyone who loves the guitar and plays in their living room or garage with no intention of gigging, but there is an accomplishment beyond the mechanics of the instrument that any musician can't help but be proud of. That's a lot of work and dedication, so it's little wonder that a Gigging Musician's ego will tend to inflate, and the up and coming musician who wants to Gig will have a bit of reverence for those who have accomplished it. And from that seed, a Gigantimungus Ego might grow. But that Ego can undo the very accomplishment that enabled it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruznolfart Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Excellent news and inspiration, FM! I know how much you were looking forward to Big Bear. glad to hear it's the beginning of something. Mind boggling schedules and non-stop head-trips notwithstanding, it's a load of fun when you can do it. Hope it has some long legs, bro'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstMeasure Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Thanks Cruzn!! It's very rewarding and a lot of fun. Hopefully this spring will bring a few more dates in outlying cities and eventually the holy grail of the Inland Empire...........An Indian Casino...LOL! kidding but not. Those Casinos pay out the nose and give great percs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djroge1 Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Hell yeah! What's a little slow clap among friends? Friends or not I'll pass on the clap Wait, let me re-word that.. I don't want the clap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruznolfart Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Friends or not I'll pass on the clap Wait' date=' let me re-word that.. I don't want the clap.[/quote'] ROFLMAO!! You caught yourself. So to speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChanMan Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 So... help me out here... ...the gist of this thread is that some folks seem to think that if you aren't a gigging musician, and you buy a guitar, you're somehow ruining the guitar market for everyone? So... I started playing guitar in 5th grade... but didn't gig until 7th grade. The logic here says I should have waited until I was gigging as a guitar player before buying a guitar, right? Hmmm.... So... the last band I was in was "in the garage" for over 2 years.... I couldn't beg them to play out. Would it be ok for me to have bought a guitar then? I did... I needed a back up, but I didn't know I had to be gigging first. I bought my Les Paul after YEARS of not playing at all... did I screw up all y'alls guitar prices?!? I am SO sorry, guys... especially you folks that don't own a Gibson yet... if I'd only known the rules. Btw... found a drummer. Same deal as me, quit for years and is getting his chops back. Can I buy another guitar now? And does this work the same for amps? I'm so confused now.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mick Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 No no no. The gist is Bluemoon was commenting on how certain unnamed people seem to think if your not a working musician your beneath them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluemoon Posted January 25, 2010 Author Share Posted January 25, 2010 No no no. The gist is Bluemoon was commenting on how certain unnamed people seem to think if your not a working musician your beneath them. Right. Beneath them and not worthy of owning a Gibson or engaging in any guitar or gear-related threads. This is my 3,000 post. I guess I should have kept my trap shut for the past 2,999 posts because I don't gig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 No no no. The gist is Bluemoon was commenting on how certain unnamed people seem to think if your not a working musician your beneath them. And as a pre-warning: If any specific names appear in which this thread is aimed at a specific individual, this thread is done. If a member feels they are a better musician than others because of their experience level, or current status as a working musician, then so be it. However, the members that feel this way will not be allowed to belittle the Gibson Forums in lieu of their lofty stance. Certainly this type of subject matter is a two-way street, and I'll assume that most here know how to maneuver around this subject matter without any moderation intervention. Thanks for your cooperation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChanMan Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 No no no. The gist is Bluemoon was commenting on how certain unnamed people seem to think if your not a working musician your beneath them. Oh. Nevermind. But that's true... the guy playing on a street corner with his case open for tips beats me in my living room. The larger the venue' date=' the greater the triumph. There has to be some objective scale to measure success as a musician. Gate receipts, records sold... these ARE the things we judge musicians by. Donald Trump beats Kid With Lemonade Stand. It's the American way, no? The issue is, we take it personally... as in "He's treating me like I'm a nobody because I'm in my living room." If you take it out of music, and put it into any other field.... "He won't take my surgical advice just because I'm a self taught amateur...." it gets a lot easier to see the point. But it's all good, see. We get the last laugh. Let's face it... those that gig for a living ARE doing it for the money. It's a cool thing, getting paid to play guitar. So it behooves them to make as much money as they can... [i']just like in any other job.[/i] So if all goes well, they will eventually break big, and we'll get to hear them on the radio. Of course, we'll ALL want to buy the new CD of someone we know from the Forum... so we'll even help them become more profitable! Then, when they're rich, we can sit around and b!tch about how they've sold out and become commercial, and aren't as good and pure as they used to be in those "basement tapes" from when they were in their living rooms..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruznolfart Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Lookahere...if you're a sickle-ist, there's them that thinks the sun rises and sets on Brand X and you ain't squat if that ain't your ride. It's only one brand that gets that rap but in truth the mentality is prevalent among riders of non-Milwaukee badges, too. Or if you don't ride in the rain, you ain't real. Or if you don't ride 1000 miles non-stop a couple times a year, you ain't real. Or if you wear synthetics instead of leather, you ain't real. It's all BS Truth is, if you ain't been ridin' more than 45 years, you ain't squat. Same stuff if you're into cars, boats, hang-gliders, horses, gold teeth, trophy-wives, amplifiers, clothes, body type, hair-style...you name it, someone does the slice-and-dice into sub-genres and classes for the sole purpose of exclusion. Gotta feel good about ourself somehow. But, if you don't let someone else define you, it's not a problem. At least not for you. It's not important what someone calls you, what's important is what you answer to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstMeasure Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 It's not important what someone calls you, what's important is what you answer to. +1's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mick Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Cruzn I think you've earned the clap again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 I ain't no stikin' musician, I just (attempt to) play guitar! ;>) CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruznolfart Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Cruzn I think you've earned the clap again. LOL! What am I gonna tell Mrs. Cruzn? 2 doses in one day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Californiaman Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Them damn oboe and tympani players get all the glory! I played the cello in my high school marching band. I couldn't keep up. In fact, I looked down right ridiculous running around with a chair in one hand and my cello and bow in the other. Sheesh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mick Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 I'm a better performer than I am a musician. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShredAstaire Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Cruzn I think you've earned the clap again. Agreed...though you may want to call it the slow clap....THE clap leads the mind elsewhere....mine anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruznolfart Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 I played the cello in my high school marching band.I couldn't keep up. In fact' date=' I looked down right ridi****us running around with a chair in one hand and my cello and bow in the other. Sheesh! [/quote'] You needed a cello-boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 I played the cello in my high school marching band.I couldn't keep up. In fact' date=' I looked down right ridi****us running around with a chair in one hand and my cello and bow in the other. Sheesh! [/quote'] Now that's a first.... I've played in my high school marching band four years, marched in Velvet Nights DBC and never saw a cello player[biggrin] LOL!!!! If that were to bear witness in today's media outlet, you would be a youtube star[blush] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FennRx Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 And as a pre-warning: If any specific names appear in which this thread is aimed at a specific individual' date=' this thread is done. If a member feels they are a better musician than others because of their experience level, or current status as a working musician, then so be it. However, the members that feel this way will not be allowed to belittle the Gibson Forums in lieu of their lofty stance. Certainly this type of subject matter is a two-way street, and I'll assume that most here know how to maneuver around this subject matter without any moderation intervention. Thanks for your cooperation. [/quote'] i respectfully ask a hypothetical question: if this thread was aimed at someone in particular, and i'm not saying it was, why would the thread be canned if a name was mentioned? that hardly seems like a two-way street, especially given some posts i have seen concerning this very subject from the opposite point of view. just sayin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruznolfart Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Now that's a first.... I've played in my high school marching band four years' date=' marched in Velvet Nights DBC and never saw a cello player[biggrin'] LOL!!!! If that were to bear witness in today's media outlet, you would be a youtube star[blush] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djroge1 Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 [YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WonLbvj7Sc4[/YOUTUBE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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