Mr. Robot Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 I received advice from a music store today that some musos string their Les pauls to get more sustain by threading the string the opposite way so as to wrap the string around the tail piece ie the have the string ball on the opposite side Does anyone here do this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laaz Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 Do a search, there are multiple threads on this forum about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Robot Posted April 9, 2010 Author Share Posted April 9, 2010 I guess that's a yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freak show Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 Yup, some people think it improves the sustain and makes sting bending easier. Others claim that's a myth. I have no opinion on the matter, as I've never tried it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edawg Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 I'll give that a try, what's the worst that can happen;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom_JEM Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 could it scratch the top of the bridge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laaz Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 could it scratch the top of the bridge? It's going to scratch the tail piece not the bridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom_JEM Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 It's going to scratch the tail piece not the bridge. Yeah thats what i meant haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAS44 Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 Top wrapping is the proper term.... Some people love it, some dont you really have to try it first. I love the feel of a nice strong set of strings (I'm considering putting 13s on my LP.... call me crazy) and top wrapping lowers the angle with which the strings bend over the bridge and it is easier to bend. Personally I think it would screw with the sustain...... Try it for yourself... thats the best advice one can give on the topic. Yeah its gonna scratch the tailpiece up a good bit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXE® Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 Never had a problem with scratching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoConMan Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 I received advice from a music store today that some musos string their Les pauls to get more sustain by threading the string the opposite way so as to wrap the string around the tail piece With a tip o' the hat to Axe - who is already well aware of everything contained herein; www.rattlesnakeroadhouse.com/TopWrapping.html If that's the "advice" they're dispensing' date=' you need to find a different store. There are many myths, and a few downright lies involved in that whole concept. I've finally decided that it's similar to asking your guitar shop if it's a good idea to get a tattoo. Fxck NO, it's not a "good idea" but if it's something you want to do and can come up with some way to rationalize it in your head - then by all means, go right ahead. Just because some other people think it's cool, doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. Think twice before citing any "facts" on the matter to bolster your position because there are very few. And doncha think Gibson would have cashed in on this by now...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXE® Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 I see hear or feel no major difference by doing it. I just. Do It. But only on my Les Pauls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saturn Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 I've posted this advice before, but will repeat it here. If you're going to do this: Either remove the tail piece completely and put the strings through before putting it back on. Or, be very careful as you feed the strings through the holes or they can come through the other side and put a nice scratch in your top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witmer Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 With a tip o' the hat to Axe - who is already well aware of everything contained herein; www.rattlesnakeroadhouse.com/TopWrapping.html If that's the "advice" they're dispensing' date=' you need to find a different store. There are many myths, and a few downright lies involved in that whole concept. I've finally decided that it's similar to asking your guitar shop if it's a good idea to get a tattoo. Fxck NO, it's not a "good idea" but if it's something you want to do and can come up with some way to rationalize it in your head - then by all means, go right ahead. Just because some other people think it's cool, doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. Think twice before citing any "facts" on the matter to bolster your position because there are very few. And doncha think Gibson would have cashed in on this by now...? Neo, I have to confess that after all these threads, this is the first time I've gone to read your article/essay. I liked it, it was clearly put and seemed well thought out, if a bit opinionated. But I have a question - does this: indicate in any way that there is some kind of historical precedence for top-wrapping, maybe pre-dating the final TOM design? I don't really know any guitar-making history, but now I'm curious about this detail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoConMan Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 Of course it's opinionated - it's MY website! :-) Yeah, from what I understand, one of the many reasons behind the TOM was to spread the string load out over 4 points instead of just two, and then allow the strings to drop at an angle to anchor them more effectively without the posts leaning. Look at any telephone pole with an anchor line on it - angles to the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulsaslim Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 I've got 9 LPs, so I tried it on one of them. Didn't really notice any difference, to tell you the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXE® Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 What ever you do. DO NOT wrap the strings around the tuning pegs. That could give you two maybe more 180* bends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulsaslim Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 Has anybody ever wrapped them under the tailpiece? Just kiddin'! Kids, don't try this at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoConMan Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 I dunno.... Hmmmm.... Thinking about how the bending loads would be applied.... LOTSA down-force on the bridge... Quick, somebody, try this on your Les Paul and let us know how it works out! #-o/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSG_Standard Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 Top wrapping and removal of the pick guard, are two of the key elements for Slashtone. True story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundergod Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 Top-wrappin' I call it a myth, and I 'm callin' it bullshit. Please ask if you wanna kno why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dem00n Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 Top-wrappin' I call it a myth' date=' and I 'm callin' it bull****. Please ask if you wanna kno why.[/quote'] Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulsaslim Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 Top wrapping and removal of the pick guard' date=' are two of the key elements for Slashtone. True story.[/quote'] If I hadn't cruised this forum for as long as I have I'd laugh at that story but no doubt there are those out there who swear their guitar sounds better with the pickguard off. Or they get brighter tone from dot inlays instead of block. Or that red one's have a warmer sound than black one's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoConMan Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 If you have back trouble, get a white Les Paul - it's a lighter color... 8-[/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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