Goldenvoice Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 I think the title pretty much says it. The new Epi came with the tune-o-matic set so the adjustment screws are dead-heading into the bridge pickup. I googled photos of 175s in general, and saw about a 50/50 as far as which way they face on others guitars... Oh, and while I'm on the subject: my 58 175 has white plastic (I assume it's plastic) saddle pieces; the new Epi has chrome ones. The metal seems to ring though to the strings past the bridge; the tails sing along - never noticed that on the 58... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender 4 Life Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 soooo, swap the saddles around in the bridge, so the strings are going over the correct sized groove, and turn the bridge around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 There are two distinct models of 'Tune-o-matic' bridges commonly fitted to todays Gibson guitars. The original, the ABR-1, has the screws facing the p-up. This should be what you have on your Blonde. It also seems to be the type fitted on the Epi. The second type, the so-called 'Nashville', has the screws facing the stop-bar. The second type was introduced in order to address a few areas where the ABR-1 design could be improved - the most obvious of which was dispensing with the need to have the retaining wire. As far as the solid-bodied instruments go, a general (and very simplistic) rule-of-thumb is the ABR-1s are found on the re-issues whereas the regular Gibson USA production has Nashville bridges fitted. I'm not sure about the semi's and hollow-bodies. Perhaps they have the ABR-1 as the Nashville bridge requires fairly hefty bushes to be fitted into the body to accept the height-adjustment screws. I've seen some very famous players with original 59 Les Pauls where they have the bridge flipped. This may be as it (possibly) allows for easier intonation adjustment. P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versatile Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Oh, and while I'm on the subject: my 58 175 has white plastic (I assume it's plastic) saddle pieces; the new Epi has chrome ones. The metal seems to ring though to the strings past the bridge; the tails sing along - never noticed that on the 58... Many jazz players go for a plain wood bridge with a one piece 'compensating' saddle My best/worst experience of 'sing along' is with a Fender Jazzmaster...for me an interesting alternate take on the 'jazz guitar' V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinTheHood Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 I always thought the screws were supposed to face the bridge on my Epi as well...until I was told otherwise. They still face the bridge, and the intonation is probably off (maybe), but I cant tell. As long as the saddles are correct, what does it matter? More specifically, what does it matter on my $200 banger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveinspain Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 I think it's sorta like a straw... Doesn't matter what end you such through you still get the juice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre S Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 I think it's sorta like a straw... Doesn't matter what end you such through you still get the juice... What if you are drinking soda? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffster Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 I am reversing the saddles on my historic LP so the screws face the bridge next time I change strings, I don't care for how the screws look facing the bridge pickup. I also think it is easier to access the screws from that angle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveinspain Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 What if you are drinking soda? Becareful... could come out your nose... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldenvoice Posted December 10, 2010 Author Share Posted December 10, 2010 Gee, you guys reminded me of another strange anomaly with my 58. I do a fair amount of palming, and this last summer, I started getting an occasional 'prick' on the side of my right hand - bad - like someone seriously jabbed me with a sewing needle! I initially thought it was a small edge of chrome, where it's coming loose on the corner of the tune-o-matic, and gently smoothed it with 600 grit sandpaper. Didn't solve the issue, and the next gig, when I felt it again, I actually started bleeding. I was starting to think my Gibby was possessed! Finally, I discovered the wire across the bridge had literally "faded" in two, and one end was rotating up and outward randomly. That little piece of spring steel was sharper than any sewing needle I've ever encountered! So I took it off. Should I replace it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChanMan Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 I'd have to agree that the screws are easier to adjust if facing the stop bar. Just my opinion, though. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabba2203 Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 I personally could care less which way the screws are facing. My concern is if my action and intonation is set properly. My palm is covering the bridge while I play and it feels no different to me backwards or forwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Plains Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 I'm the opposite - I don't like having the screws face the tailpiece. i think it looks bad. Adjusting is no problem either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveinspain Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 You can leave it off, just remember that wire is what holds the sattles in place when your strings are not on top of them. In other words brake astring while playing and good luck finding the sattle that went flying... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoConMan Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 I'm the opposite - I don't like having the screws face the tailpiece. i think it looks bad. Adjusting is no problem either way. Then I'll disagree for the sake of argument. The screws SHOULD face the tailpiece. Actually, that is the way I prefer them - for easier access if nothing else. Never meant enough to me to bother swapping the saddles around though. Cosmetics? What, you don't want anybody to know there are adjustment screws in your bridge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 So I took it off. Should I replace it? You can leave it off, just remember that wire is what holds the sattles in place when your strings are not on top of them. In other words brake astring while playing and good luck finding the sattle that went flying... As Dave said; the wire was added so that the saddles wouldn't 'disappear' if a string broke. Disastrous if you are in the middle of a gig. As you are a gigging guy I'd replace it. Very soon..... Good luck with the gigs this weekend, BTW! P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strat-o-steve Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 All I know is that my Les Paul came from the factory with the screws away from the pickups, and that's how I will keep it. But, As long as the guitar intonated correctly, and where the strings break over the saddles there were no contact between the screw heads and strings I don't think it would matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjlandry Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 I don't own a Gibson yet, but I own four Epiphones. Three of them have the tune-o-matic bridge, and all three of them have the screw-heads facing the pickups. My Traveler Speedster also has a similar bridge, as does my Schecter C1 Diamond Elite. So there are five guitars of mine which all have the screw heads facing the pickups. I never knew they did it any other way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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