neilpanda Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 So whats the most diverse rock song youve ever heard? Mine would be La Villa Strangiato by Rush http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjglB04TOno&NR=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveinspain Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 I gotta go with this.... This is a cover but these guys pull it off great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffster Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 I always liked all of the rhythm changes on Phantom of the Opera http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LDmEVtGF0g Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChanMan Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 Do we count works like 2112 and Hemispheres?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky4 Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NibIXmAN33g Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milod Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 I think a lot depends on one's definition of a "rock" song. A lotta Roy Orbison's material simply slaughtered traditional songwriting in terms of form. There was a lotta other experimental stuff in the '60s as well as pop influence got into even some pretty "rocky" material. That has continued, albeit perhaps less obviously other than in chord progressions. So in ways ... I dunno how one marks the difference between "pop" and "rock" once one gets beyond one to three-chord blues progressions. m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanvillRob Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 I think a lot depends on one's definition of a "rock" song. A lotta Roy Orbison's material simply slaughtered traditional songwriting in terms of form. There was a lotta other experimental stuff in the '60s as well as pop influence got into even some pretty "rocky" material. That has continued, albeit perhaps less obviously other than in chord progressions. So in ways ... I dunno how one marks the difference between "pop" and "rock" once one gets beyond one to three-chord blues progressions. m MIlo, I don't think enough people appreciate Roy's songwriting talent, or his voice! I heard Elvis was extremely envious of Roy's singing ability....and I "do" some of his stuff....and it quite simply is beyond my voice range, (I usually try to get a female singer to help me out on his stuff). And you're right.... examine his song structure, and there is NOTHING like it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milod Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 A thousand years ago when I was a child of 50 years, I could kinda do the range in "Crying." But the vocal quality? Nobody but Orbison. "Running Scared" is almost frightening in terms of the range, though. I did have a lady friend and guitar student who managed to cover "Crying" quite well on a Warner album, but again, we're talking very different vocal qualities. Oddly Orbison was seen first as a good guitarist rather than singer. Then he was known as a singer. Only later was he known as a truly groundbreaking songwriter. With all due respect, I don't think he was that fantastic a guitar player, but the voice and songwriting either were enough to show him as an incredible talent - both together put him into an entirely different category from anyone else. m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oopssorryy Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Tool is probably the most diverse band i listen to. They've got a couple songs that go from a 4/4 to a 7/2 and then a 5/3. Then they have a song that the rhythm is based on the Fibonacci Spiral, it's called Lateralus. They might be a bit hard for some of you, but I think some of you guys could get a kick out of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versatile Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Tool is probably the most diverse band i listen to. They've got a couple songs that go from a 4/4 to a 7/2 and then a 5/3. Then they have a song that the rhythm is based on the Fibonacci Spiral, it's called Lateralus. They might be a bit hard for some of you, but I think some of you guys could get a kick out of them. Methinks thou art having a laugh my good friend....!! Tool is a colloquial term widely in use My shed hath a surfeit thereof.... V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oopssorryy Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Methinks thou art having a laugh my good friend....!! Tool is a colloquial term widely in use My shed hath a surfeit thereof.... V No, I do not jest! They are as real as the sky is gray (at least it is in Ohio.) Though I have seen a man play a saw before, that was pretty cool. Here's proof of the great band Tool! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awYc9xvqnv0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbabig Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Yeah, Musical saws are pretty cool. I'd post an Ohm song, but ya know, nobody would listen to it, so whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saturn Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Bohemian Rhapsody fits your description. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketman Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Well since you took La Villa Strangiato, I'm going with The Trees. Classical guitar to 4/4 to 6/8 to 5/4 time with great percussion instruments to boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dem00n Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Watchtower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milod Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Okay... I'll probably take static for this but IMHO, anything other than measures that can be divided by 2 ain't rock. That leaves out 5/4, even 3/4, even though there once was, very long ago, a song called "Rock and Roll Waltz." m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oopssorryy Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Okay... I'll probably take static for this but IMHO, anything other than measures that can be divided by 2 ain't rock. That leaves out 5/4, even 3/4, even though there once was, very long ago, a song called "Rock and Roll Waltz." m It all depends on how it's played. I would consider Jimmi Hendrix's "Manic Depression" rock, and if my memory serves me right, it's 3/4. It's not the timing, but the soul and feel behind the music that defines it. This is all IMO of course.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrNylon Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 King Crimson - 21st Century Schizoid Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versatile Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 No, I do not jest! They are as real as the sky is gray (at least it is in Ohio.) Though I have seen a man play a saw before, that was pretty cool. Here's proof of the great band Tool! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awYc9xvqnv0 I dispute not the existence of the band Tool.... I am currently practicing jigs/reels in 5/3....or is it 3/5? By tying one or more legs together..... V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paging Page Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 +1 to Saturn for Bo Rhapsody!! Also from Queen: do you know these?? Millionaire Waltz The Prophet's Song Mustapha (may/may not count as rock...) I'm on mobile right now so I can't easily fetch the links. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilpanda Posted May 17, 2011 Author Share Posted May 17, 2011 Do we count works like 2112 and Hemispheres?? if you want. and yes, bohemian rhapsody is great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisnorthw Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Supper's Ready by Genesis. It's abit more than a song being 20 minutes long (gotta love prog rock!) but it's all there key changes, time changes and some great playing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SG FAN Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Electric Funeral. War Pigs is pretty diverse, also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heymisterk Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Most of the songs listed in this thread are songs I don't like because of the key changes and time signatures. Often times, I feel like it's the songwriting equivalent of playing 27 notes in a solo where two would sound better. +1 on Roy Orbison: The Man Behind the Glasses never gets his due. Here's one where I think tempo changes are very subtle but effective: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milod Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Back in the olden days, early 70s as I recall, Ian (Tyson) and Sylvia did a cupla progressive country/rock things that were pretty interesting and with a folkie sorta overtone to the lyrics. But they never "made it" on radio I think because they were so difficult to categorize. Orbison had the advantage of coming in at the beginning of "rock" and so his material was better received - plus it tended regardless of song "form" to be danceable throughout a piece. One Ian and Sylvia did, a favorite of mine, btw, had such a tempo change it could not be danced to, at least not in the style of the era. I have no idea what current style might be in colleges or even big city country bars. "We're....... from the same town Baby, same kind of school; I know your whole family, and they're just like you; I ran with your brother.... he's a loser too..." That's in kinda a blues drag; then it whips into double time. Love the lyric, though. m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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