myspace.com/jessenoah Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 sheet music and knowing how to read it&use it is nice for playing guitar, tabs are much more effcient end of story :) but i know what you mean when it comes to cheating :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
:oilpit: Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 for playing guitar' date=' tabs are much more effcient end of story[/quote'] screw efficincy, it's still cheating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djroge1 Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 using tab is not cheating. It's a tool to be used just like sheet music or your ear. What works best for you may not be the best way for another. To draw a comparison, I hate math and I use a calculator, but that's not cheating (unless your still in school and have a math test - but I'm not in school). The calculator is a tool used to reach an end. For some folks tab is a tool used to reach an end - to be able to enjoy playing guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Martin Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 It's not cheating, it's a tool and an "uneducated" man's way of transcribing music for guitar. Should everyone use it all the time? No. Too many people rely on it SOOOOO much it is sickening. Too many kids hear something they want to learn and instantly they're on the tab sites. At the very least, you should TRY to learn it by ear. Should any guitarist worth his weight in gold be able to hear something and play it? Yeah, absolutely. If you can ONLY play by tab or a chord sheet you need to spend some more time woodshopping your mad skillzzz. Tab is a great tool for beginners to learn songs as well. Most kids want to get a guitar and start playing their favorite songs, not spend months trying to figure out what key their favorite tune is in. Besides, just because you're hitting the right notes doesn't mean you're playing it in the right position, etc. Saying tab, in every instance, is outright "cheating" is ignorant and elitist IMHO. There is a fine line, and tab has it's place if it is used properly. I only use it as a very last resort, which is not often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
:oilpit: Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Ian, that's what I meant, I'm just too lazy to write all that. I know people who have been playing guitar for years and still only know how to read tabs. In the beginning it isn't cheating, after a few years of shredding, it is cheating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Martin Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Ian' date=' that's what I meant, I'm just too lazy to write all that.I know people who have been playing guitar for years and still only know how to read tabs. In the beginning it isn't cheating, after a few years of shredding, it is cheating.[/quote'] Okay then, I'm glad you expanded on that. I think we were all starting to think you were a little crazy there! Just a little. Too many damn elitists in the world of guitar playing, so many of them just need to chill out and get back to what it is really about! :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NawlinzVoodoo Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Uuuh, back to the subject, lol, I use the tuner in my Guitar Rig 3 software, the built in tuner in my GDec and also the tuner in my BOSS Micro BR. That about covers it, oh and I own over 200 books filled with tabs. Hehehe. :D/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitarJunkie Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 try showing up somewhere where you need to make a good impression' date=' and your either out of tune, or needing to barrow someones stuffmakes you look like a jack@$$[/quote'] :D Did you read that in a book. You know, a real one with, like, violins and $hit in it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitarJunkie Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 By the way, I'm surprised no one else has mentioned these yet... I love this thing because it's super accurate, and it also has "tempered" settings for open slide tunings. Plus, on stage it's very easy to read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrosurfer1959 Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 Peterson Strobe (Stroboflip) tunes anything and saves all kinds of drop tuning settings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoConMan Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 Boss TU-2. Best $100 I ever spent out of $50,000 worth of gear. Works with any guitar, any amp, no matter what kind of mood I'm in. E is the lowest note the guman vocal chord can produce' date=' so I just sing as low as I can and tune to that.I've checked with a tuner and I'm never that far off.[/quote'] Huh? I have a much lower voice than most people, and it's not consistent at the lowest end. Range varies widely. I probably wouldn't be able to use your rule of thumb. A good tuner removes any doubt. I can rest assured I'm dead on in a matter of seconds, while everybody else is still screwing around... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild_Rose Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 I have FZone Chromatic Clip Tuner (FT-800) it never lets me down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Pup Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 I use a Boss TU-15 at home and for portable use I have a Korg GA-30 for my guitar and bass and a Tune Tek TT500 for my mandolin. They fit in the cases better and are easiliy replacable. Adding to the mix that I also use different tunings the "close enough" theory just doesn't cut it...plus, that also sounds lazy to me. Has anyone ever heard the old "Stoner Donkey" saying that back in the day of rotory phones you could use a phone to tune your guitar? According to myth, the old dial tone was a perfect A tone. Anyone know if this is true?, I've never put enough faith in it to try it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Deadhead Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 Korg GA-30 accurate and fast chromatic tuner - less than $30.00 on line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertjohn Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 I either just tune to whatever sounds fine' date=' but if I need to play with other musicians... E is the lowest note the guman vocal chord can produce, so I just sing as low as I can and tune to that. I've checked with a tuner and I'm never that far off.[/quote'] Ditto. My lowest note is a bottom D so I start there. Then harmonics (7th and 5th frets etc). Tune up, play a big G open chord and let yours ears tell whats what. But I do have tuners on my acoustics and yes I use them. Very useful at gigs particularly as I use capos quite a bit. It's fun to have a bark every now and then but I usually let the dogs do it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L5Larry Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 Has anyone ever heard the old "Stoner Donkey" saying that back in the day of rotory phones you could use a phone to tune your guitar? According to myth' date=' the old dial tone was a perfect A tone. Anyone know if this is true?, I've never put enough faith in it to try it.[/quote'] I just put my Korg DT-2 up to the speaker phone. The dial tone was a dead on "A". Now that's a interesting piece of useless knowlege. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertjohn Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 screw efficincy' date=' it's still cheating[/quote'] Hi oilpit. I know what you mean. I can read music (not well) but really struggle on the guitar. But have you ever read a book or poem translated from another language? It's the same principle for me. Just a visual representation in a different form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LerxstLee Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 I have a 20 yr old Korg handheld size digital tuner that still works great , was overly expensive at the time Model DT-1 . Two weeks ago I bought the Korg " pitch black " as it is more convienient being able to hit the switch , mute the instrument , tune , then click and play . Works great and is $89.00 . Completely silent switch also . It has 3 modes I use the " strobo mode" giving me the fastest tuning indicators . NO doubt it is not a Conn Strobo tuner , but this works great and is not 300 bucks . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Pup Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 I just put my Korg DT-2 up to the speaker phone. The dial tone was a dead on "A". Now that's a interesting piece of useless knowlege. Hooray! I guess that and six bucks will get me a cup of coffee at Starbucks, and to think some guy told me that about 15 years ago and I thought he was full of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AXE® Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 The one in my brain.Tuners are cheating IMO Same with tabs. Slash will be highly disappointed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jefleppard Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 ap tuner.com. can be downloaded onto pc/mac or an ipod/blackberry and its always with you. very accurate. purchase for donation or use as a trial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRV-Zeppelin Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 I prefer vibration tuners as opposed to those that rely on notes... the one I have currently is a Fatboy Playon digital vibration tuner- or something like that. I just clip it to the headstock and I could tune in a a rock concert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Daddy Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 I use the built-in tuner in my DigiTech RP350 when I play my Strat or Ibby. When I play my Gibson Robot, however, who needs a tuner? <g> Cat Daddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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