Supersonic Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 This is my point! As most Epi owners bought a discount Asian built guitar wishing it were a Gibson, it's NOT! The next thing the OP is going to want to know is where to buy a "Gibson" headstock overlay. If you would have worked a little harder and saved a little longer, you could have bought a REAL Gibson! Another example of the "Instant Gratification Generation"! Stop it, you're ruining my golden years. Why do you even grace the Epi forum with your presence then? Yeah, everyone that buys Epiphones doesn't work hard or know how do save money. Have you ever considered that the reason some people don't buy Gibsons is because of pricks like you? Have fun sniffing corks in your "golden years". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 As most Epi owners bought a discount Asian built guitar wishing it were a Gibson.... Uh, not quite true. I'm quite happy with my 2012 QingDao version of the ES-335. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lengle1981 Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Personally I like the epi headstock on 335's 355's etc. don't like the shorter ones on LP's and SG's at all. That's the one thing I didn't like about my SG to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgruff Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 See 1:00 in for . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mako shark Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Gonna upset the purists, but i actually did this. I made it look like the Steve Howe 175. Could not afford one of those. Bought a used Epi' cheaply and decided to go the whole hog. Got decals,switch grommet,re wired with used Gibson 57's,changed pick guard and bracket and re finished headstock and neck in nitro.Spent about £600 including guitar and case. Really pleased with the results. The Gibson p'ups are a revelation with the correct wire and caps etc. The Epi p'ups were good, but nowhere near as authentic. Corksniffers will spot a slightly different headstock shape, but they'd have to look hard. I have not changed the orange Epi' label as i dont wanna con anyone - just a bit of an excercise for my own pleasure. Cant tell you enough how the rewire and 57's make to the sound. The body may be ply as opposed to the Gibbo's solid cap and finished in poly, but i guess it wont split like some caps do. I had to do alot of work to get this looking right,if you paid a luthier it probably would not make sense - go buy a real one instead. Not just about cutting/shaping head, to fit correct bell truss cover meant bridging the gap below the nut or you end up with a hole. Then the bridging piece need filling and spraying. Decals were water slide and m.o.p. effect which works well under several coats of nitro. Got a cheap 135 blueburst that i am thinking of doing similar to. Please dont crucify me - just enjoy making improvements for myself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis G Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 This is my point! As most Epi owners bought a discount Asian built guitar wishing it were a Gibson, it's NOT! Gotta agree with Cougar on this one. I bought my Epi Elitist Casino because that's what I wanted, not a Gibby 330. I bought my Epi Wildkat because Gibby doesn't have anything like it. I bought my Gibson LP Standard and Gibson 339 because that's what I wanted, not the Epi version. So I buy what I want based on why I want it, not because I'm wishing it were something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgruff Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 One day, whenever I get around to buying some locking tuners, my dot will probably get a neater, more functional headstock: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Bill Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 About 40 years ago I knew a guy that put a ladies (probably a bride's) garter across the headstock to cover up the Epiphone name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 About 40 years ago I knew a guy that put a ladies (probably a bride's) garter across the headstock to cover up the Epiphone name. Was his name Larry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggs Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Was his name Larry? "Hello Daddy, Hello Mom, I'm your la la la la la la la la Larry Son" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchie1281734003 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 In answer to the OP`s question, Otis Rush`s 60s Epiphone Riviera had the chop. I have also seen a 60`s sunburst Texan with the same mutilation. I would imagine the reason behind it was so that the guitar would fit in a standard case. Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 I saw this the other day and I was going to buy it, but then I remembered that guys that will only play Gibsons are the spawn of the devil, so I bought 4 Fenders and 6 Epiphones instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howlin Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 In answer to the OP`s question, Otis Rush`s 60s Epiphone Riviera had the chop. Steve. Wow! I've watched that video several times and never noticed the headstock was cut down. Probably due to Otis' incredible performance of one of his all-time best songs. Always loved that 1/2-step turnaround. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Rocker 59 Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Why would anyone want to mess with a Epiphone headstock ? That would not only damage the guitr but also cut down on the tone and sustain as well . Stupid . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Zeplin Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 I saw this the other day and I was going to buy it, but then I remembered that guys that will only play Gibsons are the spawn of the devil, so I bought 4 Fenders and 6 Epiphones instead. Compensate much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Zeplin Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Gotta agree with Cougar on this one. I bought my Epi Elitist Casino because that's what I wanted, not a Gibby 330. I bought my Epi Wildkat because Gibby doesn't have anything like it. I bought my Gibson LP Standard and Gibson 339 because that's what I wanted, not the Epi version. So I buy what I want based on why I want it, not because I'm wishing it were something else. + 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgruff Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Why would anyone want to mess with a Epiphone headstock ? That would not only damage the guitr but also cut down on the tone and sustain as well . Stupid . Actually, I think it should improve sustain because there's less wood vibrating, and hence taking energy out the strings. Perhaps not by much though. Removing mass in such a way that the nut is less well-supported and so less rigid could reduce sustain but that's not an issue because if you took off that much wood the headstock would snap off. I think that so long as there's a good break angle over the nut, good contact with the neck, and a good nut material, tone won't be affected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Zeplin Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Actually, I think it should improve sustain because there's less wood vibrating, and hence taking energy out the strings. Perhaps not by much though. Removing mass in such a way that the nut is less well-supported and so less rigid could reduce sustain but that's not an issue because if you took off that much wood the headstock would snap off. I think that so long as there's a good break angle over the nut, good contact with the neck, and a good nut material, tone won't be affected. From information I have seen a lighter guitar will resonate more since greater mass means more energy to move it. To me it is simple physics. From what I have read regarding vintage guitars the lighter models were considered "better". In my opinion removing a few grams of wood from beyond the point of string contact would have a neglible effect on sustain. Like p!ssing in the ocean. That being said I still wouldn't do it. It is his guitar to do what he wants with it. That a heavier guitar has better sustain in every case is a myth. Thats not to say all heavy guitars sustain poorly, just it can vary from guitar to guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge_L Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 What does the heading in chinese say? 100% fake? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge_L Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 I stand corrected! Good candidates for "made for the japanese market only Epiphone with the open book headstock" eBay listings! (Just allow the metal parts and strings to corrode some, and voilà!). You're lucky you got a real answer from Gibson, by the way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aoresteen Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Take a gander at this thread. http://reranch.com/reranch/viewtopic.php?t=53007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge_L Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Take a gander at this thread. http://reranch.com/reranch/viewtopic.php?t=53007 Wow! Going the distance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomse Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 I have cut them up a used them for fire wood. I would cut it with a fine blade and then i would sand it smooth and then i would paint it red . and i call it the bleeding epi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomse Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 just for the headstock fanatics..... I would love that guitar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mako shark Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 One of these beauties is Made in the USA, but which one ? Answers on a post card to...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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