Yes Brad, I agree with you on that. I saw them when they toured the album, I'd never heard of them until then but my friends and I would go and watch any band who's name looked interesting, but you could go and see bands for about £1.50 (about $2 I guess). I went to watch them again a year or two later and they were like a different band, all leather & studs. Not much interest to me then, however I do like their version of Diamonds & Rust.