blindboygrunt Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 BBC iPlayer has a classic albums episode featuring tom Petty's damn the torpedoes. Around the 25 minute mark he plays an epiphone hummingbird thing. Doesnt have the famous hummingbird pickguard but a slightly bigger more elaborate version. Anyone know what this guitar is ? Sounds nice. Cheers folks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cunningham26 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Hey BBG, Can't watch it because I'm in the US, but from the screengrab here http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00x7chg/Classic_Albums_Tom_Petty_Damn_the_Torpedoes/ it appears to be an Epi Frontier, likely from about 1965. One of my personal holy grails, that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted January 29, 2014 Author Share Posted January 29, 2014 Yeah thats the one. A holy grail ? Are they a rare thing ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 The Epiphone Frontier was essentially the prototype of the Hummingbird. The far more rare and top of the Epi line Excellente is the #1 most sought after followed by the Frontier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParlourMan Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Probably just as well they're not still making these. They probably wouldn't spray them right and we'd have a 4 page head to head on our hands about it being called a frontier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Probably just as well they're not still making these. They probably wouldn't spray them right and we'd have a 4 page head to head on our hands about it being called a frontier. Gibson has reissued them in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParlourMan Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Gibson has reissued them in the past. Sheer lack of 'bone of contention' threads though. They must have been half-decent… or so unpopular the very mention of their name causes more flooding than homosexuality, according to UKIP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 If you want I will come up with something to get folk's panties in a wad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlejohnny Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 We could start a big argument if its more of a dove or a h'bird blue print. There seem to be quite a few maple examples out there. scale length? Here's another famous player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorrisrownSal Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 We could start a big argument if its more of a dove or a h'bird blue print. There seem to be quite a few maple examples out there. scale length? Here's another famous player Is one of them Bernie Leadon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlejohnny Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Is one of them Bernie Leadon? Gram Parsons and Chris Hillman at altamont. But Bernie Leadon was in the Burritos at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlejohnny Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 oops! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 We could start a big argument if its more of a dove or a h'bird blue print. There seem to be quite a few maple examples out there. scale length? The Frontier had a 25.4" scale. The story goes that Ted McCarty dropped a Martin dread on chief engineer Larry Allers desk and told him to come up with a Gibson version and the Frontier was born. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gralst Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 The Epiphone Frontier was essentially the prototype of the Hummingbird. The far more rare and top of the Epi line Excellente is the #1 most sought after followed by the Frontier. A little gratuitous 60s acoustic (FT-79 Texan and FT-110 Frontier) Epi porn for prurient interests: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0gkMzies2U Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyearspickn Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 We could start a big argument if its more of a dove or a h'bird blue print. There seem to be quite a few maple examples out there. scale length? Here's another famous player Love the color. Is it smokey gray or more of a Zane Grey ? The charcoal burst's they're making now are smoke and mirrors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buc McMaster Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 The Humble Pie video is good. However.......I found myself humming the melody of While My Guitar Gently Weeps as soon as the guitars began playing. Try it. Same same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimt Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 I cant watch it.. because my over priced Apple Computer decided to toss the Flashplayer out.. and Wont reinstall.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 A little gratuitous 60s acoustic (FT-79 Texan and FT-110 Frontier) Epi porn for prurient interests: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0gkMzies2U Can't hear that without thinking of the original Yardbirds version of it. If the legend is true, It was the last song they recorded with Clapton, who left to pursue his original interest in blues with John Mayall and the Bluesbreakers. (Now THERE was a group that had some pretty heavy musicians pass through!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gralst Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 The Humble Pie video is good. However.......I found myself humming the melody of While My Guitar Gently Weeps as soon as the guitars began playing. Try it. Same same. Lol...very true. That's because they're playing it around Am with that descending bass line (The Yardbirds' version was in Em ). Once upon a long ago I was home all day by myself and was wanking around on the piano and came up with something so great that I just had to record it and I added a couple of guitar parts and a bass and even wrote some lyrics and gave it a title.."As You Look Away From Me" I was so excited because I was certain that I'd hit pay dirt. I couldn't wait for my ex to get home to play it for her. When she finally got home I rushed her into my little studio and started up the tape machine, stepped back and smirked as if to say "See?!!"...she gave me a weird look and said..."Yeah, so you've almost re-written "While My Guitar Gently Weeps", so what?" whhhoooosssshhh went the air from my balloon...I stated "Once upon a long ago" earlier because a few years later I was dinking around on the acoustic and the words "Once upon a long ago" kept coming out to my changes but that was all that I had so I blocked in (nonsense words and sounds just to fill the empty lyrical spaces)the rest....this time it was my son that said "That sounds a lot like Clapton's "Tears In Heaven"....that's because that's exactly what it was..."Once Upon A Long Ago" is an obscure McCartney song (Off "Press To Play") that I'd heard when we were on a road trip through Canada and I stored it in the old subconscious. While My Guitar is also similar in structure to "Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You" and a lot of other songs. Nothing new under the sun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gralst Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Can't hear that without thinking of the original Yardbirds version of it. If the legend is true, It was the last song they recorded with Clapton, who left to pursue his original interest in blues with John Mayall and the Bluesbreakers. (Now THERE was a group that had some pretty heavy musicians pass through!) According to Clapton he did appear on the recording of "For Your Love" but his only contribution was "a short blues riff in the middle eight" (Page 53-"Clapton-The Autobiography) but as a consolation they gave him the "B" side which was an instrumental made up and hummed by their manager Giorgio Gomelsky called "Got To Hurry". this seems to be the last thing Clapton recorded with the Yardbirds. John Mayall did seem to latch on to a lot of young talent just as they were about to make it big but he was very much a control freak and not easy to work with from what I've read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duluthdan Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Lol...very true. That's because they're playing it around Am with that descending bass line (The Yardbirds' version was in Em ). Once upon a long ago I was home all day by myself and was wanking around on the piano and came up with something so great that I just had to record it and I added a couple of guitar parts and a bass and even wrote some lyrics and gave it a title.."As You Look Away From Me" I was so excited because I was certain that I'd hit pay dirt. I couldn't wait for my ex to get home to play it for her. When she finally got home I rushed her into my little studio and started up the tape machine, stepped back and smirked as if to say "See?!!"...she gave me a weird look and said..."Yeah, so you've almost re-written "While My Guitar Gently Weeps", so what?" whhhoooosssshhh went the air from my balloon...I stated "Once upon a long ago" earlier because a few years later I was dinking around on the acoustic and the words "Once upon a long ago" kept coming out to my changes but that was all that I had so I blocked in (nonsense words and sounds just to fill the empty lyrical spaces)the rest....this time it was my son that said "That sounds a lot like Clapton's "Tears In Heaven"....that's because that's exactly what it was..."Once Upon A Long Ago" is an obscure McCartney song (Off "Press To Play") that I'd heard when we were on a road trip through Canada and I stored it in the old subconscious. While My Guitar is also similar in structure to "Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You" and a lot of other songs. Nothing new under the sun. I was 12 when I began teaching myself to play guitar... I remember dragging my older brother outside to listen to a new chord I'd "invented", and proudly strummed out a big ol' fat "Em". Now, everyone's using it... "It's all one song" - Neil Young. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Played a mid-60's square Epiphone exactly one year ago. Though I wrote about it here, I'm not sure - think it was an El Dorado. Long story short : It sounded terrific ! - unfortnately with narrow nut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 "It's all one song" - Neil Young. More like - "It's all one note" - Neil Young. Ahhh, but he does play it with authority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitom Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Even when you can't see Gram's face you can tell he's the coolest person who ever lived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojorule Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Can't hear that without thinking of the original Yardbirds version of it. If the legend is true, It was the last song they recorded with Clapton, who left to pursue his original interest in blues with John Mayall and the Bluesbreakers. (Now THERE was a group that had some pretty heavy musicians pass through!) But then the world of pop is a small world, as I will now demonstrate. The Yardbirds also had some pretty impressive guitarists pass through it after Clapton, starting with his replacement, Jeff Beck, who went on to play with Rod Stewart and Ronnie Wood in his own band, before they left to form the Faces with Ronnie Lane, Kenney Jones and Ian MacLagan, after Steve Marriott left the Small Faces to form Humble Pie. Meanwhile, the same chap who wrote For Your Love for the Yardbirds wrote Tallyman for Jeff Beck, and Bus Stop and Look Through Any Window for the Hollies which featured Graham Nash on backing vocals. Look Through Any Window broke the Hollies in the US which eventually got Graham Nash noticed by David Crosby who played with Chris Hillman in the Byrds, and Stephen Stills who played with Neil Young in Buffalo Springfield, leading to the formation of CSN/Y. Meanwhile Gram Parsons replaced Crosby in the Byrds and made friends with Keef Richards, who was playing alongside Mick Taylor in the Stones, having replaced Peter Green in the Bluesbreakers, who had himself replaced Clapton. Taylor left the Stones to be replaced by Ronnie Wood. Peter Frampton, who played with Steve Marriott in Humble Pie, was once in a band called the Preachers, managed by Bill Wyman of the Stones. Greg Ridley of Humble Pie was formerly bassist in Spooky Tooth, and was replaced in that band by Andy Leigh who went on to play for Matthews' Southern Comfort, whose biggest hit was Woodstock, also covered by CSNY, and whose writer Joni Mitchell lived with Graham Nash and inspired the song Our House. Somewhere in this web I suspect there is evidence that Graham Gouldman was directly responsible for the success of Eric Clapton, Jeff Beck, Fleetwood Mac, the Taylor-era Rolling Stones, Gram Parsons, Joni Mitchell, Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young, and for the careers of Ronnie Wood and Rod Stewart. It would take a PhD to prove it, but you only have to sift: life is a minestrone, after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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