Thundergod Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Ok, there's been more than enough talk about how to spot fake gibbies, and most of us agreed to stop giving explanations but just telling it was or not a real gibson. But what about Fenders? Last week I was witness to the lowest thing a luthier can do... he was aplying a fender decal to a squier guitar. I told him not to... that's all I could do, then I left (and will never fo back to that particular luthier). I even asked him what if the future owner finds out and confronts him... he answered by asking me if I was going to tell the guy... (damn right I am, I love trouble). So, how do you know a fender is not a fender? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dem00n Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 acutal some guy did this if its new taste on of the frets if it taste like wood its not a fender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Do you mean an American Fender, or a Mexican Fender, or a Korean Fender, Indonesian, or Chinese. Did I miss any? Hell, ya gotta take the neck off em' to date em'. Best to ya Thunder. I'm not a big Fender fan...... Can ya tell? Murph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitar slinger Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 You know here in brazil we are very cautious about Fenders (hundresds of fakes) and a lot of guys know how to spot one. The thing is, you've got to know the headstock logos. You have got to know iwch stands for wich period and country - Japan, US, Mexico. Also, the serial number will be placed in different spots depending on where the guitar was crafted - and it's year. The serial number checking is one of the things to check as well. But I'm not an expert at this. But I'll be checking it in the next few moments/hours/days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundergod Posted January 16, 2009 Author Share Posted January 16, 2009 So... nothing more obvious like with Gibsons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitar slinger Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 So... nothing more obvious like with Gibsons? Sometimes it's quite obvious: http://aceguitarshop.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6&Itemid=31 And this arcticle is lying. Fender DOES place serial number at the neck heel. But only on the japanese ones. I'm still searching the headstock logos right now. But I'm willing to help anyone who wants to start a tread to see if its a fake fender or not. I just need to contact some guys and they tell what's wrong and where. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cajunman831 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Fender guitars are easy to spot fakes.At the head stock remove the neck and you,ll see it dated and who inspected it.tuners should say Fender. Pickup cavity routes have employee inps.stickers.They used to have s.n on back of headstock on older models.Sometimes they,re on the inside of pickup cavities.Quality and workmanship is something easy to spot.bridge saddles should say Fender on the older ones.There,s so many ways to spot the fakes.I played them and still do after thirty years.I just can spot the fakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitar slinger Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Fender guitars are easy to spot fakes.At the head stock remove the neck and you' date='ll see it dated and who inspected it.tuners should say Fender.Pickup cavity routes have employee inps.stickers.They used to have s.n on back of headstock on older models.Sometimes they,re on the inside of pickup cavities.Quality and workmanship is something easy to spot.bridge saddles should say Fender on the older ones.There,s so many ways to spot the fakes.I played them and still do after thirty years.I just can spot the fakes.[/quote'] That is true, but does not work with pictures... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Plains Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 I've been checking out craigslist for a Tele...but the more I though about it, the more I thought it was a bad idea. It's so easy for somebody to mix and match necks/bodies. Knowing my luck, I'd buy an American neck on a Mexican body... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichCI Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 I think a lot of it depends on the model, and Fender makes a LOT of variations of the Stratocaster. My MIA 57 Reissue: Has a serial number stamped on the neck plate, not the headstock. Might be in the neck pocket but I never took the neck off. Does not have "Fender" stamped on the tuners but does have it stamped on each of the bridge saddles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffster Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 The same advantages in Fender design is what makes them more easily falsifiable. You can switch parts easily and there are a ton of aftermarket parts. The Squier line makes things even worse. There are more than 100 differenet Stratocaster models and if you count from the beginning who knows. Like Guitar Slinger says you have to know your logos and it does not end there, you have to do your homework. Applying a waterslide is a very easy thing to do...I applied this one to my beater, if you know your logos you would know this logo has never been used by Fender on a guitar... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Californiaman Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Same as a Gibson boys. Check the dates on the pots, pickups, take the neck off and check the date, check the serial numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitar slinger Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 I even asked him what if the future owner finds out and confronts him... he answered by asking me if I was going to tell the guy... (damn right I am' date=' I love trouble).[/quote'] Please come back and tell us how that story turns out. If you have the guts to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRV-Zeppelin Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 ?? what's with all the Fender topics in the Lounge?? .... ... not that there's anything wrong with that, of course... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSG_Standard Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Aren't all Fenders fake? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXE® Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Real or Fake ??? I got nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundergod Posted January 17, 2009 Author Share Posted January 17, 2009 That is true' date=' but does not work with pictures...[/quote'] +1 That was my point... with gibson you can tell with pics, but with fender you have to take the damn thing appart... and when buying online or at a store its not an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluezboy Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 Real or Fake ??? I got nothing. Oh man that's a toss up AXE....I'm going with fake there's just something about that finish.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitar slinger Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 +1 That was my point... with gibson you can tell with pics' date=' but with fender you have to take the damn thing appart... and when buying online or at a store its not an option.[/quote'] Not entirely true. There is also a good side of having 90 models of stratocaster. It means they are very specific. I know a few guys who can spot a fake fender with pcitures (not talking about vintage) because most times people say it's an X guitar and you can see it's not. But, really, it's not such an easy feat and you have to keep up with your homework. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundergod Posted January 17, 2009 Author Share Posted January 17, 2009 Oh man that's a toss up AXE....I'm going with fake there's just something about that finish.... ...nothing wrong with that one... its one of those Goth fenders epiphone pulled out a while ago.:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepblue Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 Fenders...newer ones have bar code stickers in the pickup cavity and on the neck joint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.