Silenced Fred Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 I'm trying to convince my parents to help fund an Orange Dual Terror, and they asked me, how good are you? I didn't really know how to answer. I know scales, I can play solos, but I tend to be more of a rhythm player. I have good time, and find myself more useful there because a lot of people that play guitar that I know can't count for sh¡t, so I have kind of made that my niche. I can do riffs, chords, some solos. In your definition, what makes a good guitar player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketman Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Well there is no way anybody can define that. I think you should instead show your parents how serious you are about playing. I know if my kid took a very active interest in something then I'd be inclined to buy something nice for him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 At minimum a guitar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Well there is no way anybody can define that. I think you should instead show your parents how serious you are about playing. I know if my kid took a very active interest in something then I'd be inclined to buy something nice for him... I second that, when I was a teen I showed my parents how dedicated I was. Also how the "right" equipment would last and be with me for a lifetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChanMan Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 For me, it took others who were knowledgeable about music and musicians to tell my folks I had promise. Once a couple of established and working musicians told them they should encourage me, they were much more receptive and supportive. I hope that helps! ETA* Actually... for my Mom, it took an impromptu beach concert. She used to tease me about only knowing 3 chords until the night I went out to the beach with my guitar. She came to check on me in a couple of hours and found me surrounded by people listening to me play. So go to the beach and put on a free concert. It worked for Guns N Roses! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silenced Fred Posted March 25, 2010 Author Share Posted March 25, 2010 That's kinda what I was getting at. That's what I told them. I can play and am progressing. I mean, its not like I'm asking for a 100 watt Marshall head, it would be for the kind of stuff I would be playing, jam sessions, small gigs, whatnot. I didn't think there was any way to define a guitarist as good or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milod Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Nathan, yeah, I think Rocketman hit it pretty well... You're young, but look at all the folks you know your age and younger who have started this and quit, started that and quit, started the other thing and quit... So it's not even a matter of "are you very talented and skilled," as much as "is this a part of you that it is part of your life that can't be left behind?" Granted, that's harder to prove than ability. But... <grin> Good luck, truly. Heck, my parents never did "get it" along those lines for a number of reasons that had nothing to do with me or my interests. m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwness Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 My parents said if I wanted the guitar and amp get a job and I did. Got the amp and guitar I wanted. 1957 LP Jr and the JTM. Boy I made a lot of Taco's CW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAS44 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Personally I think it should be more a "How much do you love it" not "Are you any good?". Just my opinion. A guy who loves it more than anything else but isnt that good deserves it more than someone who is fantastic and doesnt really enjoy it. Just my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky4 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 If your playing annoys them, they're probably not going to buy you an amp with Terror in the name. If you're in a situation where you can't play loudly, a loud amp makes no sense. 5 watts is as loud as a trumpet. Think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silenced Fred Posted March 25, 2010 Author Share Posted March 25, 2010 If your playing annoys them' date=' they're probably not going to buy you an amp with Terror in the name. If you're in a situation where you can't play loudly, a loud amp makes no sense. 5 watts is as loud as a trumpet. Think about it.[/quote'] I know what you mean. They were a little shaken up at first, but I told them its only the name, and that it goes down to 7 watts. They understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky4 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 I know what you mean. They were a little shaken up at first' date=' but I told them its only the name, and that it goes down to 7 watts. They understand.[/quote'] I'm telling you, 7 watts is ****ing loud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Natural Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 What makes a good guitarest? Practice, practice, practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoyVader Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 What makes a good guitarist? hmm...a bucket on yer head? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Natural Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 What makes a good guitarist? hmm...a bucket on yer head? ...a bucket on yer head, AND practice, practice, practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look! Im guitarest! Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 ...a bucket on yer head' date=' AND practice, practice, practice.[/quote'] And you have to wear a mask + take lessons from Pebber Brown, Mark Hammond, Paul Gilbert, Johnny Fortune, Max McGuire + study the deadly sonic arts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milod Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 The heck with what makes a "good" guitarist. If you love it, do it. If you don't, don't bother. Never forget that it's cheaper both than drink and punching doors and walls. A lot less painful, too. And you end up smiling a lot more. m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamman Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 What makes a good guitarest? Practice' date=' practice, practice.[/quote']+1 for that . they will know when they hear it. And than they will tell you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxson50 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 I read all the other answers, and I can tell you one thing; Your going about this all wrong! You don't have to convince them your good enough for a great guitar and amp.............. Just tell them that if you don't get the amp and guitar you need, your going to sell all your gear and take up drums!!!!!!!!!!!! And your never going to leave home till you can play just like Ginger Baker!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoyVader Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 My parents said if I wanted the guitar and amp get a job and I did. Got theamp and guitar I wanted. 1957 LP Jr and the JTM. Boy I made a lot of Taco's CW Good on ya cwness...kid's today eh! mumble..mumble..moan..moan.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrosurfer1959 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 I agree dedication and hard work and a true love of music make a good guitarist very few are born as musical prodigy most have to earn it. Hard call for a parent on what is a need and what is a want I tended to err on the side of buying it early since good gear makes it easier to learn, and if they quit hell I got the gear back anyway. My parents were not wealthy so I earned my first gear pretty slowly, my parents bought me a LP standard and a L6-s along with a 1974 Marshall 18 watt amp when I got into college on a full scholarship, they had saved money for school so when I got a full ride scholarship for Football and academics they splurged some and the rest of the money went into my sisters college fund I will always remember that day though a amp and two new guitars. The amp and the L6-s are still with me 30 some years later (LP was stolen in early 80's) so good equipment does last almost forever at least. The amazing part of the guitars was I was not expecting anything especially help in college I was kicked out of the house on my 16 birthday so thought the parent thing was pretty much over then but they still had a college fund going even though I was out on my own. Before anybody thinks my parents were jerks trust me I earned it when I got kicked out my poor dad took me outside on my 16 birthday and pointed at a almost new pickup he said there you go the good news is that's your present, the bad news is everything you own is in it your too much to handle now, so we love you but goodbye... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstMeasure Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 God and Bad are subjective. Beginner, Intermediate, and Advanced are not. I think what your parents are trying to get you to think about would be more "Do you NEED a Dual Orange terror, or do you WANT a Dual Orange Terror?" Do you really think you've "Out Grown" your current set up? Has your playing advanced to the point where you need to upgrade your amp? If you Need an Orange Terror then I bet they'll help you get one. If you Want one, they'd probably want to see you try to get it yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowdiddley Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 Tell your parents that you love it and you are getting better, and that you love it enough to keep you from ever getting into drugs and other things like that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flight959 Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 Maybe you parents are more interested in the "Will he kepp this up or is it just a phase" rather than how good you are... Your parents know how good you are, after all their your parents... Just sayin, Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quietly Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 Just tell them that you want to carry on with guitar but if you can't you are considering playing bagpipes. Job done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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