charlie brown Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 We've talked about models we'd like to see revived... How about which ones, in everyones (probably differing) humble opinion, (New or Older current model) Epiphone guitar, should they discontinue, and...why? Style, Price, Features (or lack thereof)...or just a "What were they thinkin'...flat out mistake?" CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted June 19, 2008 Author Share Posted June 19, 2008 OK...I'll go first...Elitist "Twisted Sister" LP...why? Why NOT?! ;>) And, to make room for an Elitist Riviera! CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byrds1965 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Emily the Strange SG if they haven't already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansmitchell Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 LP-100. Arch top and a bolt on neck? WTF? pointlessness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricochet Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 The Twisted Sister. The Futura comes close, but not close enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RotcanX Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 G-310. The price on the G-400 has dropped so low as to make the 310 redundant. Then, while they're at it, drop the 'G-400' name and call a spade a spade, i.e. call it an SG Standard. Then introduce a Special version with two P-90s and a dot neck which would sell for the same price as the Standard. And add the fricking binding to the neck. There's a fantastic opportunity coming up in 2011 for Epiphone to upgrade the G-400s... it wil be the 50th anniversary of the SG. If I were in charge, I'd offer a Limited Edition 50th anniversary Epiphone SG Standard with all the proper features (bound fingerboard, correct scarfing, correct right-angle switch and placement of electronics, correct size and shape cavity cover, correct body thickness), made out of solid African mahogany with nickel hardware... for around $600 retail. The LE would also have the open book headstock. Then, in 2012, go back to the mystery mahogany and the standard price but keep the updates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JefferySmith Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 I don't like any of the Epiphones with a strange pattern painted on them, and I hate the pink Elitist. I understand that they would appeal to someone with a need to be noticed, but let that person paint his own guitar pink or, better yet, let him buy a Daisy Rock guitar instead. And let's cut down on the redundancy in the Les Paul line. Offering one or two Les Pauls in a variety of different finishes makes more sense that completely different models. Unless, of course, you just like to collect Les Pauls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RotcanX Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Well, yeah, drop the LP-100, but other than that, having a Studio (low budget) a Standard (the workhorse) a '56 GT (P-90s) and a Custom (bling bling) makes sense. Even the Black Bowtie has its place. Trust me, Epiphone is going strictly by the numbers on this... otherwise we'd still have glitter LPs, 12-string LPs, 7-string LPs, the Signature LP... all duds that were dropped years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notes_Norton Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 How about that LP with the bull's eye??? I have played in some bars where that would be considered a challenge <big grin> Insights, incites and a bit of silliness by Notes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RotcanX Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Heh heh.. yeah... well, personally I think most of these sig guitars are a waste of wood but they must be popular with a certain market segment or else they wouldn't keep bringing them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manimal Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Yikes!!! Where can I start???? Ax the G-310, the Futura, and the EM's!!! Yuck!! And lets exchange the Twisted Sister Elitist with the Standard Plaintop!!! That to me was hands down the best Elitist!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byrds1965 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 G-310. The price on the G-400 has dropped so low as to make the 310 redundant. Then' date=' while they're at it, drop the 'G-400' [i']name and call a spade a spade, i.e. call it an SG Standard. Then introduce a Special version with two P-90s. And add the fricking binding to the neck. There's a fantastic opportunity coming up in 2011 for Epiphone to upgrade the G-400s... it wil be the 50th anniversary of the SG. If I were in charge, I'd offer a Limited Edition 50th anniversary Epiphone SG Standard with all the proper features (bound fingerboard, correct scarfing, correct right-angle switch and placement of electronics, correct size and shape cavity cover, correct body thickness), made out of solid African mahogany with nickel hardware... for around $600 retail. The LE would also have the open book headstock. Then, in 2012, go back to the mystery mahogany and the standard price but keep the updates. Great idea hope they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesstringer Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 I'm not really sure where to start, Lp-100, G-310, Zak Wylde, Twisted Sister, Emily the Strange, for all that that matters, all the signatures should propably go. But they will, most companies sell initial numbers of these type of guitars when produced and then drop them when the sales begin to dive, we wait very lonh, they will all be gone ! You can't really blame them for attempting to reach new customers but I don't really see many of the folks that buy these types of guitars to be the "brand loyal" type, IMHO anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansmitchell Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Oh, I also forgot the SG special. It's too crappy to bear the epi name IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinTheHood Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 and the EM's!!! Yuck!! You, sir, just made me cry. Actually, the new EMs look ugly. The 90's models were sweet. Add the "pirates" SG to that list too...or any other guitar with inane factory graphics on them. I think I would be plain embarassed to play something like that...at home, even...by myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RotcanX Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Oh' date=' I also forgot the SG special.It's too crappy to bear the epi name IMO.[/quote'] Well, the Specials make good entry-level guitars for beginners, so they should keep them in the lineup. And don't knock the EM-1. For the price, it's hard to beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansmitchell Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Well' date=' the Specials make good entry-level guitars for beginners, so they should keep them in the lineup. And don't knock the EM-1. For the price, it's hard to beat.[/quote'] Well, if we HAD the set neck junior '57 and a similar set neck solid mahogany SG, we wouldn't need it. But yeah, I guess it's the SG's les paul special II. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RotcanX Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 The set neck Juniors are $300. Too expensive for a beginner. No, the Specials at $170 are very important for the young newbie player. Just make sure to hide the turd polish. :- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stan 58 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Come on Spud, I always wanted one of thoses glitter les pauls.Stan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Sentry Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 I don't know man.... Seriously, I don't. I DO think, though...that they should set up more of their guitars like the LP-100.....for reasons I don't really want to get into. If it's cheap...fine...just give the poor jack a chance to replace certain things if they go bad.... that's fair, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RotcanX Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Well, they should settle on one lowball model for each style. Either the LP Special II or the LP-100; either the SG Special or the G-310. Personally, IMO, they should keep the Specials and dump the others; if somebody wants something better than the Specials they should go straight to the Studio or G-400. The G-310 is so marginally better than the Special (two more knobs, a pickguard)... I don't see the point. It kinda made sense when G-400s were going for over $400 but now... I mean, you have the cheap POC (the Special) and then you have the somewhat more expensive and much better G-400. The G-310 is really nothing but a more expensive POC... in other words the worst of both worlds. Anyway, judging by the way MF was dumping G-310s and LP-100s I'm betting that Epiphone has already reached the same conclusion. One thing they should do though is upgrade the tuners on the Specials. They are god awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RotcanX Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Come on Spud' date=' I always wanted one of thoses glitter les pauls.Stan.[/quote']I remember seeing a purple one that was just gorgeous. A little over the top, but a real eye catcher nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesstringer Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Come on Spud' date=' I always wanted one of thoses glitter les pauls.Stan.[/quote'] It would definitely be a good addition to the green monster, LOL - just kidding bro......kinda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansmitchell Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 The set neck Juniors are $300. Too expensive for a beginner. No' date=' the Specials at $170 are very important for the young newbie player. Just make sure to hide the turd polish. [/quote']They actually were 250 when they were selling new, I think. And factors like the P-100's lower production levels than humbuckers, limited edition pricing, "reissue" status, were price upcharges, as well. I think they could get it down to 200, maybe less with different wood choices, but that would cut into the point somewhat. And below those are the current juniors, at 120. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RotcanX Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 They were closer to $300 up here at the time. That was before the US dollar tanked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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