JefferySmith Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 I may be going against the grain here but I would recommend the Dot. I don't consider the Tele as a rhythm guitar but I guess it could depend on what you play. I have played mostly in country' date=' southern rock, and blues bands where most of the lead players play Teles and the rhythm guys use Strats or Les Pauls.[/quote'] I sort of agree here. I think of the Telecaster as a lead guitar, and the Dot as being able to do either. I played rhythm guitar for 7 years with a 335, and I could get it to make any sound I needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 What IS a "Lead" guitar?! ;>) LOL! ANY guitar can do either or both. It's merely a matter of doing it. Oh, I know what you guys mean, but really...any guitar, given a decent player, and good/great amp, can play anything...IMHO. I know a really good "rythmer" that plays nothing but a Telecaster. So... CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gashole Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 What IS a "Lead" guitar?! ;>) LOL! ANY guitar can do either or both. It's merely a matter of doing it. Oh' date=' I know what you guys mean, but really...any guitar, given a decent player, and good/great amp, can play anything...IMHO. I know a really good "rythmer" that plays nothing but a Telecaster. So... CB[/quote'] Keith Richards said "When you go to a store to buy a guitar you don't buy a lead or rythmn guitar...you buy a guitar!" He was very right, and as an excellent rythmn man who can occasionaly rip the sweet solo too...his thoughts have credence! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
layboomo Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 What IS a "Lead" guitar?! ;>) LOL! ANY guitar can do either or both. It's merely a matter of doing it. Oh' date=' I know what you guys mean, but really...any guitar, given a decent player, and good/great amp, can play anything...IMHO. I know a really good "rythmer" that plays nothing but a Telecaster. So... CB[/quote'] Any guitar plugged in to an overdrive pedal ahead of a good tube amp is a LEAD GUITAR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccrnnr9 Posted March 24, 2009 Author Share Posted March 24, 2009 Man, thanks for all the advice guys! I expected to check back and see 5 or so responses. Anyways I hear what all of you are saying and Im at the point where I am considering getting both and foregoing getting a cab to play the VJ head through and just using my bass amp (I am primarily a bass player btw). I guess after playing each guitar for a long time (and actually owning a CV tele at one point for a couple months) the thing that has me torn is how great each were yet how different they are. At this point I am leaning more towards the tele simply because with a lot of tone control tweaking I can get a lot out of it and they are bombproof in terms of durability. I feel comfortable taking the tele to a jam with a gig bag...not so much with the dot. On the other hand for lead playing (although I won't be doing much) above the 12th fret the dot and all 335's I have played have a stunningly amazing tone that is to die for. The other thing I like about the dots is the chunky neck. Coming from a p-bass it just feels right. The real catch is the casino. Having heard them (never played one) the p90's almost seem like the perfect compromise. In terms of an earlier question posed, the CV telecaster I owned was far superior to the lite ash telecaster I owned (although I really liked the neck pup on the lite ash!). I think the thing that hangs me up is that I want to try something different but my #1 love is always a telecaster. The fact that over here at an epi forum I still get the bias towards a tele has me thinking that is the way to go. The other nice thing about the CV is that they come stock routed for a bucker in the neck so if I don't get what I want out of the stock neck pup then a mini bucker it is. The next question that I pose to you gear heads is this: for home use, blackheart killer ant or used bitmo modded epi vj ($110)? If this is too OT just keep giving me advice on the other issue...I am going to pull the trigger on somthing tonight. ~Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ef_in_fla Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 I don't know why you wouldn't consider a strat, especially a fat strat which is best of both worlds. It's your money though...well MF's money.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccrnnr9 Posted March 24, 2009 Author Share Posted March 24, 2009 I know it seems crazy to some but to my ears the tones a strat gets and that a tele gets are so much different. I really don't like the tones I get from strats as much, nor do I like the way they sit on a strap as much or how they look. Looks shouldn't be a factor, but let's face it, for me they are. Strats have more of a quack, while teles have a twang...I much prefer twang. ~Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenrirlupus Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 gritty? bluesy? dot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenrirlupus Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 I don't know why you wouldn't consider a strat' date=' especially a fat strat which is best of both worlds. It's your money though...well MF's money....[/quote']strat? why would he want as little sustain as possible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenrirlupus Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 I personally would say a tele is better then a dot' date=' I would say a sheraton is better then a tele, but a deluxe tele is the best, personal opinion :), but as a rhythm guitar, tele all around [/quote']hmm... thinline hollow tele with humbuckers? :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Well, whatever you decide, I'm sure you'll make good use of it/them. If you get the Dot, and decide later, you want P-90 tones, Gibson P-94's (basically, P-90's in humbucker format) that will drop right in the humbucker mounts/rings. No mod necessary. There are other "aftermarket" versions of the P-94 (GFS, Duncan, etc. versions with different names), that will work, too. So, you'll have a lot of "choices," should you need them. Good luck! CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JefferySmith Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 strat? why would he want as little sustain as possible? The Ventures used a Strat for rhythm for years. But as I recall it didn't have much sustain. But how long does a rhythm player wait between strums? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 The Ventures used a Strat for rhythm for years. But as I recall it didn't have much sustain. But how long does a rhythm player wait between strums? LOL Yeah, and didn't Al Jardine use a Strat for Rhythm work, in the Beach Boys?! Sounded fine, to me. CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Summerisle Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 A fair few rhythm players would swear by one of these babies... Superb guitars...these reissues are from Fender Japan...some might say they beat both the Baja and Corona product hands down... Pricey, though. $900 new or around $600 used on Fleabay. Edit: I just checked the Sweetwater site. These are made in Mexico too now. Such is life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluelake07 Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Not bad, not bad at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianh Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Anyways I hear what all of you are saying and Im at the point where I am considering getting both ... Now yer thinkin' straight! Lord S - that Tele Deluxe is sweet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenrirlupus Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 The Ventures used a Strat for rhythm for years. But as I recall it didn't have much sustain. But how long does a rhythm player wait between strums? ok' date=' so my assessment may have been unfair... a strat is a fine guitar... especially in the hands of someone like buddy holly but it's not [i']my[/i] favorite... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenrirlupus Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Any guitar plugged in to an overdrive pedal ahead of a good tube amp is a LEAD GUITAR! lead?the heavy poisonous stuff? (ok, just pulling your leg here.... ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gashole Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 A fair few rhythm players would swear by one of these babies... Superb guitars...these reissues are from Fender Japan...some might say they beat both the Baja and Corona product hands down... Pricey' date=' though. $900 new or around $600 used on Fleabay. Edit: I just checked the Sweetwater site. These are made in Mexico too now. Such is life.[/quote'] Gotta buddy w/ the Squier version of that. It's a good player too. Sounds sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judybat Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 I have both a Dot and Tele, along with a couple Pauls, an SG, and a couple Strats and a Gibby doublecut... I play a good bit of rhythm and find myself gravitating more and more to the Tele. The dot feels really big to me (I'm average sized guy), whereas the Tele has a good size/feel. Sound is great. Neck is better feeling to me than the Dot, which feels huge. They're both cool guitars though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ButchCassidy Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 If I were you, I'd get a guitar for the exact amount of the credit MF owes you, sell it, and get an sx stl 50. $250 or so in your pocket. Then you could probably get a used dot for that amount if you bargain on craigslist. I have an sx stl. It's a perfectly good guitar except the tuners could be a little better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulsaslim Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 To each his own. I own 5 dots & 5 teles. I never consider using a tele for rhythm and to me the dot is the best rhythm guitar made. You don't get the depth, the 'thickness', out of a tele IMO. They are thin-sounding, especially if you're using a stock neck pickup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexygibson Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Man; don't it always open up a can of worms when someone asks " which one " ? We offer our thoughts and then even recommend guitars that were not even mentioned ! Well, this post will be no different. First, as has been stated, ANY guitar can be a lead or rhythm or lead guitar, but, for what I personally play, I would use the Tele for lead and the Dot for rhythm. Several guys have also thrown Strats out there as a possiability. I think Strats may a very good " do everything " guitar, but maybe you just don't like Strats. so, I'll throw another possablity out there; what about the Nashville Tele ? It is your Standard Tele but with a Strat pickup in the middle position. I have considered this model myself. You get the best of both worlds; Strat and Tele tones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICH Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 I have a Nashville Tele, the model with the Fishman power bridge. It is extremely versatile and with the 5 way switching you can use the middle and neck pickup together to get extra width over the neck pickup alone. I use mine a lot for rhythm work. The power bridge also gives the "big acoustic" option, and you can blend it in with the standard pickups, again giving the extra width that some telecasters can lack. I also have a Squier Tele custom II which has the Duncan Designed P90 pickups. A nice guitar but not as flexible as the Power Nash. ICH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stig Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 I've got a Tele that I've had for 25 years, and even with 12 other guitars, it's the one that I pick up first for almost any job. They're just tremendous guitars. I have a bucker at the neck, and it sounds great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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