deepblue Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 Canada is going to buy 65, F-35 Lightning fighter jets. We need to replace our aging F-18 Hornets. Couldnt you Americans lower the price of the F-22's a little? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heymisterk Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 I will make a phone call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZenKen Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 We need the cash....... B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPguitarman Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 I just saw The Blue Angels at Scott Airforce Base last Sunday. They use FA-18 Hornets. Awesome jets. Awesome show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swleary Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 I just looked up images of them ,very nice jet. I wonder though, should we get them in Red? you know since we are Canadians lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZenKen Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 Get the Maestro tail. It looks real nice B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVOL! Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 We need the cash....... B) Tell me about it. Imperialism is expensive! You know what the daily cost of the Iraq occupation is? Afghanistan ain't done either. Maybe we could get that money upfront? And no, we won't accept payment in maple syrup, peameal bacon, and Molsons this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZenKen Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 Tell me about it. Imperialism is expensive! You know what the daily cost of the Iraq occupation is? Afghanistan ain't done either. Maybe we could get that money upfront? And no, we won't accept payment in maple syrup, peameal bacon, and Molsons this time. Hmmmmmm.....Molsons........ B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowdiddley Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 Tell me about it. Imperialism is expensive! You know what the daily cost of the Iraq occupation is? Afghanistan ain't done either. Maybe we could get that money upfront? And no, we won't accept payment in maple syrup, peameal bacon, and Molsons this time. You do make it hard friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badbluesplayer Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 You Canadians need more planes and bombs and stuff. When you get as many as us Americans have, then you can start being afraid of everybody like we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoConMan Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 I won't even touch the political ******-baggery involved with the F-22/F-35 programs. F-22 is already yesterday's news, and I've yet to see one. TWENTY YEARS in development? When we were a World Superpower instead of a has-been on the precipice of a Third world plunge, we designed legendary aircraft in months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saturn Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Keep checking Ebay...maybe a few will pop up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WahKeen Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Have your people contact my people, we'll do lunch, give me your account number and I'll let you know if I'll come down on the prices. And stop calling my Shirley! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shnate McDuanus Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Might wanna check Craigslist. They have some pretty good deals on there. *wonders if they have Craigslist services in Canada* Also, make sure you know what you're getting. The F-35 comes in either VOS or a gloss finish, and some of them have plain tops while some of them have figured tops, and don't even get me started on neck widths, chambering/weight-relief, and electronics. Sorry...If I can't be helpful, I can (try to) be funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengin Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Sure hope they are advanced enough to take on those jets the Taliban Air Force have. Do anti shoe bomber missles come as standard on those F22s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyK Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 ...When we were a World Superpower instead of a has-been on the precipice of a Third world plunge, we designed legendary aircraft in months. It's because we had motivation. An enemy with a formidable air force, actively using them against us and our allies. We still do, but not enough of the right people want to believe it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepblue Posted September 16, 2010 Author Share Posted September 16, 2010 Canada made a state of the art jet fighter, in fact it was cutting edge and would have been the best of the best at the time (1958)It had the capability to reach mach 2.5...who could catch it? The Avro Arrow, was then scrapped in '59...for reasons unknown, mostly political. Alot of the engineers and brains behind the project took jobs with NASA after the plant closure and helped with the space program. It was a beautiful looking aircraft. If interested google CF-105 Avro Arrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bill Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 It was a beautiful looking aircraft. If interested google CF-105 Avro Arrow. That certainly is an impressive delta-wing for that era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevef Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 The real reason Canada's buying the f-35s. Talk about a Cold War? From CTV Winnipeg. Canada, Russia locked in dispute over Arctic border Canada and Russia are locked in a decades-old dispute over which country owns vast stretches of the Arctic, and the potentially rich resources beneath the otherwise deserted ice and snow. --------------------------------------------- http://winnipeg.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20100916/arctic-resources-100916/20100916/?hub=WinnipegHome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoConMan Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 I'll side with Canada Beer-drinkers'll whup a bunch of vodka-addled stumbling drunks every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmurray Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 Canada is going to buy 65, F-35 Lightning fighter jets. We need to replace our aging F-18 Hornets. Couldnt you Americans lower the price of the F-22's a little? Price isn't the issue. USA won't sell F22's because they want the tech for themselves only. Fair enough too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepblue Posted September 17, 2010 Author Share Posted September 17, 2010 Price isn't the issue. USA won't sell F22's because they want the tech for themselves only. Fair enough too. I dont think thats entirely true. I know the US didnt really want to sell F-22's to Japan. In 2006 a ban was lifted allowing "allies" a chance to buy them. Alot of senior military personal DO want to keep it USA only, but at $150 million +/- a piece they know they could make a fortune. Selling to countries like Canada, Britain and a few other trusted (I did say trusted) allies would and should be of no concern to national secuity. As far as we Canucks go, I dont think our government wants to spend the money for a few reasons. First of all,The US is our neighbour and they wouldnt allow anything to happen to us. Not that it would ever happen, but if Canada became the target of some evil empire and war was declared on us, im quite sure the US forces would be once again our brothers in arms. So we really have no need to purchase the biggest weapons. Im not saying thats right, but history shows that its true. Truth be known, Canadian and US armed forces are more intertwined than most people know. I used to date a girl who was from a military family. Her father was a big shot high up in the ranks. He used to get drunk and tell stories, and if even one of them is true, Canada is not as innocent and meek as the world thinks we are...and the States knows all about it. Its their little secret. Anyway, thats my rant for the day. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmurray Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 In 2006 a ban was lifted allowing "allies" a chance to buy them. Interesting, I hadn't heard about this. Have any allies bought any yet? Australia has quite a few JSF's on order, for what reasons I'll never know, they don't have the range that we need. Currently we have a fleet of F111's (awesome aircraft) which have enough range to take off from Perth, bomb the **** out of Taiwan and return on the same tank. The JSF couldn't even make it half way there, and they're the replacement aircraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyK Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 Neither Russia nor Canada, nor the US can lay claim to ANY of the Arctic floor. Canada, Russia and The US can lay all the plaques and flags they want in mile deep water, jurisdiction and control are already determined by the UN treaty of 1982. Each gets 12 nautical miles of territorial waters and 200 miles of economic exclusivity. Canadia has economic exclusivity to the very end of the Lomonosove Ridge along the 60th parallel 200 miles off Alert point, but other than that, the rest is up for grabs. In fact, if proximity, beyond the 200 mile economic limit is a determiner, Denmark has greatest claim, owing to Greenland's closer approach to this under water ridge. Whomever drills the first hole gets it. Unless, of course, gun boats are deployed ... And with Vlad the Mad at the helm that is a distinct possibility. As the ice pack melts, great economic opportunities will be opened up. I just hope we don't screw up the Boreal Forrest in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevef Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 As long as U.S. teams continue winning the Stanley Cup you folks can have your airplanes! If the Islanders win the Stabley Cup you can have the entire U.S. Navy! [laugh] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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