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NeoConMan

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Liking the name - "Neo"....

 

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Did you compare it to the Boss offerings?

The BR-1600 is the one I almost bought, then talked myself out of it due to time constraints.

 

I was wondering what your research revealed to be the biggest differences among the various products.

(Aside from price)

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duane v

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Liking the name - "Neo"....

 

[woot]

 

Did you compare it to the Boss offerings?

The BR-1600 is the one I almost bought, then talked myself out of it due to time constraints.

 

I was wondering what your research revealed to be the biggest differences among the various products.

(Aside from price)

 

My purchase decision was based on previous Tascam recording purchases. Once I feel comfortable with a brand, I stick with it.

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Liking the name - "Neo"....

 

[woot]

 

Did you compare it to the Boss offerings?

The BR-1600 is the one I almost bought, then talked myself out of it due to time constraints.

 

I was wondering what your research revealed to be the biggest differences among the various products.

(Aside from price)

 

 

Neo, I saw your questions on the recording forum.....Most of the units these days are well designed and made. The main differences are price points, number of tracks, internal storage capacity, features, and ease of use. The number of available tracks is not all that important as most ( home recording folks ) don't need them all. Ease of use is debatable. The learning curve can be sharp, but these units are easy enough to get going to do basic recordings; and as one uses these, the more one learns how they work, and they slowly become second nature. These units are capable of producing fully top notch recordings, depending on one's knowledge of the unit, recording techniques, and equipment used in one's home studio. I noticed that some were intimidated by the number of buttons on these things. Well yeah, but the buttons all do different things and often multiple things. Once again, these work as well as you understand them. I think that these things need MORE buttons to remove the multiple uses of them. The standard for most pro studios and home studios is computer based systems, the best being 'Pro Tools' based. Less VISIBLE buttons, but for folks who aren't computer savy beyond a certain degree, the learning curve to record using computer based systems can destroy the creative process, and the costs can spiral out of control as one needs more memory, more processing power, more software, etc etc etc.....The beauty of these units is that the units are self contained, so the main extra costs are what you choose to add to enhance your studio; ie, better mikes, more mikes, better pre-amps, sound proofing, cool lighting, more guitars ( like you need more ) etc etc.....So the choice is which way does one want to go; Computer recording, or a single unit DAW.....I went DAW; and I am SLOWLY learning by studying the pro-tools method not by hands on, but by study, and when I switch over to pro-tools, I'll know enough to not pull my hair out too much or smash my computer out of frustration. And I will still use my DAW......Duane went with Tascam because he likes the brand, and the unit he chose is being sold for a great price. This time out, I chose the Korg D3200 which has many more buttons, more features, more channels, etc...The Korg D3200 has been around for a while, and I expect that an upgraded version will be released soon. I paid $1200.00 for mine, and when compared to what it would have cost me to go with a 'starter' pro tools system, was and is a bargin. These units are portable (even my korg), so they are good for live recording as well. All the Boss units you were / are considering are great units as well. They are good. They are easier to use; some are almost plug and play !!! It all depends on what your long term recording plans are, and how much time you have and want to spend learning and recording. Your friend has a recording studio, you may ask him what he thinks. You can record over at his place, but the drawback is that once you start recording, it can be addictive, as such you'll end up wanting to record at home.....Then there are the two words that you hate to hear Neo; " Forien Made." But most computers are made overseas as well........Hope this helps, Neo..........

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NeoConMan

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The number of available tracks is not all that important as most ( home recording folks ) don't need them all.

NUMBER ONE: wanted to be able to mic a complete drum kit, with a few extras for the "room" sound in stereo.

Take it home, throw some scratch vocals on it for reference, record bass parts direct in, then start working with guitars.

I figured that would make or break it - getting a sound I like from all my assorted gear and playing the parts well.

No effects was my initial goal, but I really like my Fulltone OCD.

 

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Less VISIBLE buttons, but for folks who aren't computer savy beyond a certain degree, the learning curve to record using computer based systems can destroy the creative process, and the costs can spiral out of control as one needs more memory, more processing power, more software, etc etc etc.....

 

I'll know enough to not pull my hair out too much or smash my computer out of frustration.

I f-ing HATE computers, and you've nailed the reason why.

 

 

once you start recording, it can be addictive, as such you'll end up wanting to record at home....

I figured as much. Everybody I know with any experience at it made that very clear.

Love/Hate thing, takes time to get it right, consumes all your time if you can't.

 

All I need a studio for is the drums, the rest would happen out at my place where no neighbors complain.

I figured if I got on a roll with it, I'd be like a 13 year old who just found his brother's porno mags...

 

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Mrs. Neo wouldn't see me for days...

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+1 on David Wills' training DVDs. I have a DP-02 amongst a few other recorders, and his training style is really good and well organized. if the neo's workflow is similar to the DP-02, you'll pick it up quickly.

 

Have fun with it and best of luck!

 

Don

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damian

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Neo, the Tascam is on sale; I'm sure it's a great unit, but when they discount anything it gives me pause. The reviews seem to prefer the Korg over the Tascam, but I don't want to rain on Duane's thread !!!!! The Boss is only a hundred bucks less than the Korg 3200, but the learning curve is probably easier.....Oh boy, the art of miking drums....so many schools of thought. It can be done with as few as four mikes, or as many as one chooses. The Boss can record eight tracks simultaneously, which MIGHT not be ideal...The Korg; 12 tracks, and the Tascam, probably eight.....A world of decisions......All three are good units, but only one was named after you.......

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Those things are great. Me and my buddy bought a Zoom R16 about a year ago for about $300.00. Records 8 tracks at once with sixteen tracks total. The one that Duane's getting has a lot more stuff. Probably a great deal. We can record the PA output, bass, 2 guitars, organ and have three mics for the drums. The sound quality is unbelievable for "garage" style recording.

 

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damian

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It's a joke....get it?

 

Ah jeez, yup, you got me good !!! Between posting serious stuff and my non serious stuff and my law studies I missed the 'tape' reference ! Ah man...Here I post a serious post and miss the obvious while reading law books....Yup, sweet, good one.....dang gosh golly gee wizz............Thanks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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The technology available for the home studio today is amazing. There is a shop in town that specializes in old amps and vintage sound equipment, they also customize modern amps and guitars, but the owner has been buying old stuff since the 1970s. He bought out a old recording studio a few years ago, with reel to reel tape, analog boards (32 track?) all was state of the art when it was built, and much better than anything we had in the 1960s...

You would need two pick-up trucks to haul it home. OR you could buy a hand held unit for under $500.00 that fits in your hand and would have more capacity...

But that old stuff is still cool...

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duane v

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Definitely pretty easy to use, however if you have never played around with recording equipment, this may prove a bit frustrating and one will need to exercise some patience.

 

I truly like that I can bounce my previous individual cakewalk recorded tracks/projects over to this... It's a little time consuming, but I can now finish all my uncompleted projects.

 

The onboard effects are pretty damn good

The guitar modeling blows... just use your amp.

Final mix downs are super easy now.

 

I'm pissed that I paid over $584, because it's now $519 at the same place

[cursing]

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